On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:00:36 GMT 'Craig Welch'
posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>hummingbird wrote:
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>> Craig Welch:
>
>>> hummingbird:
>
>>>> My defence is already stated: 1) I don't particularly enjoy the smell
>>>> of curry sitting next to me on an airplane, although I happily will
>>>> eat curry elsewhere and 2) those who bring their take-aways on board
>>>> are very likely to make a mess with either their food or packaging or
>>>> both to my detriment. Many people are messy by nature and have
>>>> different standards of cleanliness.
>
>>> I note your use of 'are very likely to make a mess'.
>
>> Indeed. The riff-raff who bring take-away curries on board are often
>> the same riff-raff who are messy by nature. This group of people often
>> do what they want and disregard others. Not always, but often.
>> IOW slobs and riff-raff tend to have common characteristics.
>
>Again, you base this on conjecture. You have already stated that you
>have not seen anyone bring a curry on board.
You may call it conjecture, I call it experience. As I've said, people
tend to fall into categories (personality types if you prefer) and
their behaviours often have common traits. Not always but often!
I've been around long enough and managed enough people to make a
judgement about how other people behave but I'm always willing to
accept that there are exceptions to any rule.
W/r/t to taking curry on board, you obviously see nothing wrong with
it but IMVHO it's selfish in itself because it is bound to offend some
other people on board (more so than taking a sandwich on board) and
such selfish behaviour is indicative of the personality type involved.
>> In the same way, North Americans are more likely to speak English with
>> a North American accent ...and politicians are more likely to lie than
>> tell the truth. Not always, but usually.
>>
>> Caveat: little is black/white.
>
>>> It seems then that your entire argument is based on conjecture rather
>>> than observation?
>>
>> Not at all. When talking about human nature and behaviour we can only
>> judge others from what we see over time. It is the case that people
>> often fall into social types or groups with common characteristics.
>> Ask any human psychologist.
>
>Ah, that evasion indicates that your comments above are indeed based on
>conjecture. Vague statements about human nature are quite different to
>seeing people mess up aeroplanes with curry waste.
See above. It ought to explain my point better.
>>> I've advised you of my observation. That it makes no more mess than the
>>> food prepared by the airline. That the only real mess I see on an
>>> airlines comes from ignorant mothers and their children.
>
>> I generally agree with you that mothers and their kids make *more*
>> mess but they are not the only ones. I previously suggested that you
>> check the cabin floor of any plane after a long flight. The mess you
>> will find is not all caused by mothers/kids.
>
>No, it's not. Nor is it caused by 'bring your own' curry eaters.
It could easily be. A person who brings a curry on board *is more
likely* to drop some on the floor, throw away the garbage or stuff
it into a seat-back than a person who doesn't.
>> I don't agree with your former assertion.
>
>> If you can eat a take-away curry on board and make absolutely no mess
>> with it or the packaging, then I'd say you are the exception not the
>> rule -or- you are acutely aware of your obligations and make a great
>> effort.
>
>Naturally I am such a person.
Then you are to be commended.
There's still the problem that a curry in itself is likely to offend
some other passengers on board. Does that not bother you?
>> But it still leaves open the issue of you imposing the foul
>> smell of someone else's curry onto other passengers.
>
>I thought we'd dealt with that. Apart from your loaded use of the word
>'foul' instead of 'strong',
Some people do find the smell of curry "foul" and it tends to permeate
clothing as evidenced by the number of Indians/Pakis living in Britain
who always smell of curry.
>it's been pointed out that airlines also
>serve curries. So a person who takes his own curry on board is no more
>'imposing' than is the very airline.
I'd thought we'd dealt with that: airline curries are usually mild
and not served often (except singapore airlines seemingly!) and they
don't smell the plane out like a take-away curry being scoffed by
the passenger sitting next to you 30mins after take-off.
