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Author: richardrichard Date: May 31, 2008 19:56
On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:57:40 -0700 (PDT), rrtopper@ excite.com wrote:
More wikipedia bullshit.
The United States copyright laws already give consumers certain rights
to enjoy music as they see fit for their own personal use. If I go to
a store, buy a CD and then copy the contents to my computer, that is
100%% legal. I'll bet that it's even legal in Canada.
Then there is another problem with this farce. Jurisdiction.
In the USA, domains are controlled by ICANN. If you own a domain name
registered in the USA, then the USA laws apply to that domain name
regardless of where you live. Read the laws.
Canada does NOT have the legal right to shut down any dot com website
for alleged copyright infringement. Think about it. How is a Canadian
Court going to impose Canadian laws on a USA citizen living in the
USA?
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Author: Bill CunninghamBill Cunningham Date: May 31, 2008 20:20
What about the Fair use doctrine? Digital rights management is the bad
thing.
Bill
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Author: richardrichard Date: May 31, 2008 20:36
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:20:05 GMT, "Bill Cunningham" nspam.com>
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> What about the Fair use doctrine? Digital rights management is the bad
>thing.
>
>Bill
>
Precisely. M$ has declared itself the watchdog of the industry and now
insists that simply because you use it's products, YOU must have a
license. No license? You're screwed.
Even though you have legally obtained that music.
I can't even play a WMA file on winamp simply because I have no
license. DRM ain't about rights, it's about kickbacks and making
money.
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Author: richardrichard Date: May 31, 2008 20:55
On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:14:02 -0400, Larry y.com> wrote:
>In article 4ax.com>,
> richard newsguy.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:57:40 -0700 (PDT), rrtopper@ excite.com wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> More wikipedia bullshit.
>>
>> The United States copyright laws already give consumers certain rights
>> to enjoy music as they see fit for their own personal use.
>
>Copyright laws do not in any way protect the end user, Richard. They
>protect the owner of the copyright.
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Author: BenjBenj Date: May 31, 2008 21:52
On Jun 1, 12:03Â am, Larry y.com> wrote:
>> As a NYC ADA, Larry, can you legally prosecute a citizen of Canada who
>> has never set foot in your city? Of course not.
> I most certainly can. Â Extradition would be tough, but it could be done.
Always? Moron.
> Want some examples of how I can prosecute someone who committed a crime
> in NY but never set foot here?
>
> 1) Someone stands on the shore of the Hudson River in NJ and fires a
> shot into NY, killing someone. Â NY has jurisdiction to charge the person
> with murder.
Apples-oranges. Both NY and NJ are in the SAME country! Moron.
Say a person stands in Canada and fires a bullet into the U.S. killing
someone. They are charged with murder and Canada is asked for
extradition. Too bad. The U.S. has the death penalty and Canada won't
extradite where a person would face the death penalty. So much for
your bold assertions.
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Author: BenjBenj Date: May 31, 2008 21:53
On May 31, 11:55Â pm, richard newsguy.com> wrote:
>>How eloquent. Â And wrong.
>
> Do you know what started all this crap?
> The director of RIAA, a woman with no clues about copyrighty laws,
> said to the creator of NAPSTER, "Aren't you aware that what you are
> doing is illegal?"
> No it's not. Never has been. The program he wrote never violated the
> laws. As I can legally share with you any item I own. Again, what I
> can not do with it is, make copies and sell it.
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Author: richardrichard Date: May 31, 2008 22:48
On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:55:05 -0400, Larry y.com> wrote:
>In article 4ax.com>,
> richard newsguy.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:20:05 GMT, "Bill Cunningham" nspam.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> What about the Fair use doctrine? Digital rights management is the bad
>>>thing.
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>> Precisely. M$ has declared itself the watchdog of the industry and now
>> insists that simply because you use it's products, YOU must have a
>> license. No license? You're screwed.
>
>Wait, a company that creates something gets to decide how the product is
>used? SHOCKING!
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Author: ScoutScout Date: Jun 1, 2008 06:20
> In article 4ax.com>,
> richard newsguy.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:14:02 -0400, Larry y.com> wrote:
>>>>>In article 4ax.com>,
>>> richard newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:57:40 -0700 (PDT), rrtopper@ excite.com wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>>>> More wikipedia bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> The United States copyright laws already give consumers certain rights
>>>> to enjoy music as they see fit for their own personal use. ...
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Author: Kurt UllmanKurt Ullman Date: Jun 1, 2008 10:45
In article earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Larry y.com> wrote:
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> States routinely achieve extraditions in these circumstances by agreeing
> not to ask for the death penalty. Problem solved.
After, of course, an appropriate amount of blustering for the cameras
about how these other countries shouldn't pry into our business lest
anyone suggest the prosecutor is Soft On Crime.
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