> On Oct 9, 10:36 am, MH wrote:
>>Google Beta User wrote:
>>>On Oct 9, 12:15 am, Enzo yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>- Torres was UNDERrated, not overrated. I feared the worst after
>>>>>reading RSS reports from La Liga watchers.
Pretty hard to say that any player that cost that much was under-rated.
>>>>Right. And you know this after watching what, 5 games?
>>>>Enzo [ who has followed Torres for 5 years ]
>>>He's looked good in every game so far and he's scored vs. Chelsea and
>>>Spurs, in addition to having a hat-trick.
>>>He's started well. He's looking nice so far. It's ok if that is
>>>contrary to what you have predicted, the sun will still rise tommorow.
>>>What's his record for Spain?
>>Poorish. About a goal every 3 games.
>>I am happy for him and Liverpool that he is off to a good start. And
>>maybe he is more suited to the EPL than the Spanish league. But, like
>>Enzo, my impression of him in Spain was that he hadn't progressed the
>>way his talent predicted he would. Good speed, work rate and skill, but
>>not all that clever in a footballing sense. He is still only 23 , so
>>maybe the hype will eventually be justified.
> How do you define football intelligence? Guile? Off the ball movement?
> Clinical finishing?
Interaction with other players, including making the right pass to the
right player early.
His finishing is erratic - scores a fair few spectacular ones, and
misses a fair number of easy one - but not outlandishly so, and should
I was more concerned with running/dribbbling into a pile of defenders
when passing early to a team-mate would have made more sense.
He also seemed to struggle to adapt to various different striking
partners (though the revolving door policy at Atletico surely didn't
help) with his best spell coming when paired with a big greek lad
(Nikopolides ? ) in 2003-2004. In his defence , Atletico was always a
bit deficient in terms of play-making midfielders, with Ibagaza about
the most creative they have had in the last five years (not counting
Kuyt and Crouch would both seem to be good foils for him, and both Xabi
and Gerrard are the type of midfielders who should be able to create
openings for him, so maybe he has found the right place and team at the
> He has certainly shown the ability to beat defenders, and has been
> showing well-timed runs. He definitely could improve his finishing.
> But I certainly wouldnt say that he's below average in the brains
nobody said below average. Below average for a player that cost that
much, that's all. And we could be wrong.
> Where exactly do you think he's lacking in the intelligence dept?