> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:46:59 -0600, Dale Houstman skypoint.com>
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>>Tracy_Barber@frontiernet.net wrote:
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>>>On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:54:14 -0600, Dale Houstman skypoint.com>
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>>>>Tracy_Barber@frontiernet.net wrote:
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>>>>>On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:25:59 -0600, Dale Houstman skypoint.com>
>>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>>There's no argument that Jimi somewhat overpowered the other two,
>>>>>>although I think their playing is fine. And I don't really think it's
>>>>>>much of a "problem" - the records sound good to me. I only raised Jimi
>>>>>>because he is a guitar virtuoso (full of complexities), and yet also
>>>>>>considered psychedelic. Thus supporting the idea that psychedelia is not
>>>>>>a very easily qualified thing in itself. Donovan was also considered a
>>>>>>psychedelic folk artist, although there is neither a prodigious amount
>>>>>>of studio trickery, or most of what routinely is identified with the
>>>>>>sonic part of the term. He's just "twee" with a lot of fairy dust; which
>>>>>>is also an aspect of psychedelia.

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>>>>>Mitch Mitchell was no slouch and many will state that. His drumming
>>>>>was quite good, in the scheme of things.

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>>>>I always thought so. But he never really had much hope of being noticed
>>>>in the cosmis wash of Jimi's guitar.
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>>>>>Hendrix was into making all types of sounds and stereo panning,
>>>>>overdubs and so forth for the sake of progression, not psychedelia -
>>>>>although at the time, one may "argue" about it. Listen to "1983..."
>>>>>on Electric Ladyland - almost reaches prog status. Just because there
>>>>>weren't any keyboards present doesn't mean it's not progressive.

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>>>>I know he was really quite the lad for studio work. But I wouldn't say
>>>>with any certainty that "1983..." is any more "prog" than "psyche": it's
>>>>cosmic/mermaid theme is as much a matter of the psychedelic themes as
>>>>progressive ones, if any distinction can reasonably be made. I assume
>>>>that Jimi didn't bother to put a label on it all...

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>>>Actually, he did. He composed it, a la classical music, to some
>>>extent. That is, of course, the impression given by the extensive
>>>liner notes with the CD.
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>>>I'd say it leaned more towards prog, because prog wasn't a household
>>>name back then. Most weird sounding stuff was simply shoved into
>>>psych as a misnomer at times.
>>>

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>>Well - just because Jimi didn't label it "psychedelic" doesn't mean it
>>isn't: he didn't label it "progressive" either, so that argument would
>>eliminate both sides of the discussion. It's obviously a constructed
>>piece - as i've already noted - but since nothing in my understanding of
>>what may or not be "psychedelic" restricts construction/composition from
>>beinf also "psychedelic" that doesn't clarify what is basically an
>>unclarifiable debate either. It's cosmic and mystical aspects - plus its
>>sonic experimentation - suffice - for me - to make it a viable
>>psychedelic experience...
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>>>The song has prog movements, but also has rock / floaty stuff like
>>>King Crimson. Anyway, tomato, tomahto, yes?
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>>>>>Hendrix was "into" sounds. I simply love the speed and virtuosity of
>>>>>"Jam Back At The House" on Woodstock II. One could almost call it
>>>>>speed metal or heavy metal before the term was truly coined. Sheesh...
>>>>>
>>>>>Or, the beauty of Little Wing. Or the use of wah-wah on "Voodoo Child
>>>>>- Slight Return". One could also include the jam Voodoo Chile on
>>>>>Electric Ladyland... It wasn't all "Hey, Joe", "Wild Thing" or any
>>>>>Dylan take-offs, although they moved him more into some mainstream
>>>>>than straight blues / rock.
>>>>>
>>>>>He was playing heavy stuff when others were playing nursery rhymes and
>>>>>fairy tales - light and fluffy stuff for the "love child" set.

>>>>
>>>>Hey! Keep your hands off my dandelion hat!

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>>>Aha! The psych side is showing. Or is that a Freudian slip?

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>>No - I spilled some ego on my Freudian slip, so today I'm wearing my
>>teddy, boy...

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