The most recent ascii versions of these FAQs
are available at

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All mail addresses have been anti-spammed by replacing "@" with " AT
". Please put the "@" back in order to use the email addresses. This
is necessary, unfortunately, since I know that my spam levels have
rocketed since spamming started in earnest. Newsgroup names should
be
news: URLs so you can read any newsgroup mentioned here by clicking
them (again, providing your browser supports them). Also, some names
are links to the Web pages of individuals.

This file may be freely distributed as long as it is not modified
in any way and contains this notice.

*Please Note:* All ftp, and web addresses are given in
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this then read this short explanation. Simple URL
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ftp://*some.network.address*/some/path/

A URL as given above can be entered as it is into any Web
browser. If you intend to use standard ftp, the starred part
should be used as the address of the machine to which you should
connect and the immediately following section as the directory to
look in when you are connected. The part preceding the starred
section can be ignored in this case.

The following people have contributed to making this file what it
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Mike Borella (cathmike AT xnet.com)
Phil Kime (Philip AT kime.org.uk)

------------------------------------
Mailing Lists Through Email/Internet
------------------------------------

A mailing list is a group of users with a special interest topic
that unites them via email. Any mail sent to the list address is
"exploded" by being sent to everyone on the subscription list. The
lists can reach up to hundreds or thousands of people with mutual
interests. Lists are generally available as normal (separate mail
for each post) or digest format.

Some lists are moderated: the moderator may request that a post
be edited or may refuse to post it if the content considered off
the topic of the list or possibly even offensive. This may sound
restrictive, but in reality there are few situations where post
content is censored or edited. One example is a list where discussion
of trading bootlegs is forbidden by the management of the site that
"owns" the mailing list. There is no guarantee of "free speech"
on computer networks as there also is the implicit assumption
that anything you email or post may be read by many people. Most
people are not very concerned about this, but public discussions
of potentially illegal actions such as trading tapes, bootlegs or
otherwise is at your own risk and should probably be undertaken
with some discretion. In theory, mailing lists can reach a lot of
people who have email but cannot get Internet news. Mailing lists
tend to have less usless posts and flames because of a smaller,
more focused audience.

For solo and related acts, discussions might take place on related
lists (for example, Fish might be discussed on the Marillion list,
and Brand X on the Genesis list, Bruford, Levin and Belew on the
King Crimson list, Bruford on the Yes list, in fact Bruford on
just about any list: there is a theory, "The Bruford Connectivity
Hypothesis", that Bill Bruford can be connected to anybody in the
music business by no more than two steps, where a step is defined as
"having worked with". There is a stronger hypothesis "The Special
Bruford Connectivity Hypothesis" that extends this by saying that
the connection can be made to anyone on the planet in no more than
three steps. Ergo, Bill Bruford is the social epicentre of the
human race. Quite frightening really.

Most mailing lists have a "-request" or administrative address for
subscriptions and unsubscriptions. Save the introduction to any
list to which you subscribe or keep track of the administration
address when you want to unsubscribe. Many people post subscribe
and unsubscribe messages to the list mailer addresses, unwittingly
sending them to up to hundreds of other subscribers. Some list
administrators do not regularly read the mailing list posts or
have automated the subscription process, so use the administration
address for the appropriate requests. Listserv or Bitnet mailing
lists typically have a listserv@ address you should use instead of a
"-request" format address. Some of the smaller, digested lists use
no administrative address and all mail is sent to one address.

~~~~~~~~~~~
Please Note
~~~~~~~~~~~

There is no guarantee that these addresses are correct. What you see
below is, to the best of my knowledge, the most recent address of
the mailing list. If the address is incorrect, please let me know.
If you are a moderator of a prog mailing list, please contact me
with updates if and when your address changes.

::Artist::
Progmaestros mailing list
::Admin Address::
progmaestros-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
progmaestros-request AT arastar.com
::Comments::

This daily digest was developed as a result of the interest in Dream
Theater by musicians subscribed to the Ytsejam digest. Our goal
is to network the musicians across the world who are interested
in Progressive rock and metal music. We believe by doing this we
can share ideas, experiences and plans for our individual efforts
and thereby make it more accessible to a mainstream audience.
This music deserves to be heard by more people AND better promoted by
the industry. We hope that through our collective efforts this will
eventually happen. THE WHOLE IS GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS!

The progmaestros mailing list can be joined by doing the following:

Send the following e-mail to progmaestros-request AT arastar.com

Subject should be "asdf". Text should read exactly:

subscribe progmaestros firstname lastname

(replace the names with your own.) You will be added automatically!

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::Artist::
Colorado Art Rock Society (CARS)
::WWW::
http://denver.sidewalk.com/detail/2518
::Comments::

The Colorado Art Rock Society (C.A.R.S.) holds monthly meetings of
Progressive Rock fans. We meet fellow fans, listen to GREAT music,
swap CD's, eat, mingle and just relax. We meet the last Saturday
evening of each month. CD player is provided. We meet the last
Saturday of each month at 6:00pm

Meetings take place upstairs at:
Margarita Bay Club
1301 South Pearl Street
(at Louisiana)
Denver, Colorado 80210
(303) 871-0603

Take I-25 to Washington/Emerson Exit (exit 205B) Coming from the
North - Right on Washington, Right on Louisiana (Club is on the left)
Coming from the South - Left on Louisiana (Club os on the left)
We meet in the UPSTAIRS meeting room. For more detailed directions
check out the web site.

The Colorado Art Rock Society (C.A.R.S.) also has a mailing list
set up. This list will be used to send out reminders for our
monthly meetings at the Margarita Bay Club (last Saturday of each
month at 6:00 pm) in Denver. It will also be used for announcements
of Progressive music, gigs and events in the Colorado area. We also
have an archive section which includes files and web page bookmarks.
To subscribe:

<URL:http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/coloradoprog>

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::Artist::
Pendentif Aglagla general Prog mailing list
::Admin Address::
pengla-owner AT egroups.fr
::Moderator Address::
jdelcoux AT infonie.be
::WWW::
<URL:http://pengla.com/>
::Comments::

The only Frenchspeaking mailing list about Progressive Rock! If you
want to discuss about Progressive Rock in french, then visit our
web site for more informations and for subscription. It's free !!!

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::Artist::
Dream Theater
::Admin Address::
ytsejam-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
ytsejam-owner AT arastar.com
::Comments::

Ytsejam, the Dream Theater mailing list concerns itself with Dream
Theater past, present, and future. To subscribe make this the body
of your mail:

subscribe ytsejam "Your Name"

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::Artist::
Peter Gabriel
::Admin Address::
gabriel AT alpha.ufsia.ac.be
::Moderator Address::
CCS.PEERAER.G AT alpha.ufsia.ac.be (Geert Peeraer)
::Comments::
FTP archives available. Digest form available also.

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::Artist::
Genesis
::Admin Address::
paperlate-request AT ansto.gov.au
::Moderator Address::
mcmahan AT cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.paperlate.gpa.it/>
::Comments::
Send a message with `HELP' in the body for details on how to use
the server to subscribe. (This is *totally* automated!)

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::Artist::
Gentle Giant
::Admin Address::
owner-majordomo AT lists.uoregon.edu
::Comments::

Bob Parker runs the Gentle Giant mailing (On Reflection) list.

To receive list mail at the address from which you're sending your
mail, send a message to majordomo AT lists.uoregon.edu with the
words:

subscribe on-reflection

in the message body (no subject is necessary).

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::Name::
Gibraltar (Progressive Rock)
::Admin Address::
listman AT plato.museum.tulane.edu
::Moderator Address::
gib AT mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Mike Taylor)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.progrock.net/gibraltar/gibraltar.html>
::Comments::
The list covers general and obscure Progressive Rock topics
like rec.music.progressive and has a very useful archive server.
Backissues and related files are available via anonymous ftp in the
music directories at <URL:ftp://ftp.museum.tulane.edu/gib_issues/>
There's a very outdated topical index of the issues of the digest
which is useful for finding references to specific bands in back
issues. Backissues are also available via the Gibraltar web site
and are 100%% indexed and searchable. To subscribe, send mail body
of:

subscribe gibraltar "Your Name"

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::Artist::
Peter Hammill/Van Der Graaf Generator
::Admin Address::
ph7-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
ph7-owner AT arastar.com
::Comments::

The ph7 mailing list concerns itself with the music and writings of
Peter Hammill and related bands such as Van Der Graaf Generator.
Recent discussions have included comments on Random Hold, Fripp,
The Long Goodbye and Peter Hammill's two books of lyrics, poems,
and short stories. To subscribe, send a mail body of:

subscribe ph7 "Your Name"

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::Artist::
Hawkwind
::Admin Address::
boc-l AT spcvxa.spc.edu
::Comments::
Talk focuses around the two primary bands, but discussions have
included the Ozric Tentacles and Eloy, plus Hawkwind offshoot
bands and other `space-rock' bands.

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::Artist::
Allan Holdsworth
::Admin Address::
atavachron-request AT msuacad.morehead-st.edu
::Moderator Address::
preston AT msuacad.morehead-st.edu
::Comments::
A digested list that discusses Allan's music and session work.

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::Artist::
IQ
::Admin Address::
nmd AT newton.npl.co.uk
::Moderator Address::
nmd AT newton.npl.co.u
::Comments::
Also included is discussion of related bands such as Jadis,
Niadem's Ghost and the Lens, as well as to a smaller degree,
lesser known bands on the English club/prog scene.

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::Artist::
Jethro Tull
::Moderator Address::
vernernet AT juno.com Kevin Smith (Vern)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.tullzine.org/talktull.htm>

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::Artist::
Kansas
::Admin Address::
kansas-request AT traveller.com
::Moderator Address::
rew AT crystaldata.com (Ryan Waldron)

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::Artist::
King Crimson, Robert Fripp and related artists
::Admin Address::
admin AT elephant-talk.com
::Moderator Address::
moderator AT elephant-talk.com (Toby Howard)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.elephant-talk.com/>
::Comments::
This is the "Elephant Talk" digest (previously called
"Discipline"). Archives at <URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/> with
discography(ies?) also.

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::Artist::
Marillion/Fish
::Admin Address::
freaks-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
freaks-owner AT arastar.com
::Comments::

The freaks mailing list is the oldest of the arastar.com: progressive
rock mailing lists. It deals with Marillion, Fish, and other related
bands. To subscribe, send mail body of:

subscribe freaks "Your Name"

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::Artist::
Steve Morse and the Dixie Dregs
::Admin Address::
blickstein AT dregs.enet.dec.COM
::Moderator Address::
blickstein AT dregs.enet.dec.COM

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::Artist::
Mike Oldfield
::Admin Address::
amarok-request AT ommadawn.cegep-heritage.qc.ca
::List Address::
amarok AT ommadawn.cegep-heritage.qc.ca
::Comments::

To subscribe send

subscribe amarok-daily

in the body of a message to the admin address

Web site at

<URL:http://www.frisbee.net.au/amarok/>

ftp archive at

<URL:ftp://ftp.frisbee.net.au/amarok/>

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::Artist::
Pink Floyd
::Admin Address::
echoserv AT meddle.org (automated server), echoes-request AT
meddle.org (manual un/subscribe)
::Moderator Address::
bear AT meddle.org
::Comments::

Basic info is at <URL:http://www.meddle.org>

To subscribe send mail to the server (echoserv AT meddle.org) with

Subscription: add echoes or Subscription: add-digest echoes

You can mail to echoes-request AT meddle.org to susbcribe manually.

Archive server has lists of rare releases, huge FAQ, interviews etc.
You can get info on how to use the server to retrieve files, reviews
of rarities discs and interviews and other info by sending mail to
the echoserv address with the text body:

help
quit

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::Artist::
Post-classical discussion
::Admin Address::
majordomo AT cs.uwp.edu
::Comments::

Send "subscribe post-classical" in the *body* of the mail or
"subscribe post-classical-digest" for the digest format. From the
admin information regarding which bands might typicallybe discussed
on the list:

Shinjuku Thief, In The Nursery, Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, Daniel
Denis, Pete Namlook, Peter Frohmader, Graeme Revell, Laibach,
Autopsia, Mynox Layh, Frame/Cut/Frame, Edgar Varese, John Cage,
Karlheinz Stockhousen, Michael Nyman, Steve Reich, Harry Partch,
Morton Feldman, Mossolov and Iannis Xenakis.

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::Artist::
Queensryche
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.scream.org/>
::WWW (Subscriptions)::
<URL:http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/queensryche/>
::Moderator Address::
queensryche-owner AT onelist.com (Jai Piper)
::Comments::
Now Web-based.

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::Artist::
Rush
::Admin Address::
thmleng-subscribe AT egroups.com (subscribe) thmleng-unsubscribe
AT egroups.com (unsubscribe)
::Moderator Address::
thmleng-owner AT egroups.com
::Comments::
The former Rush mailing list, The National Midnight Star, was
discontinued. Comment from the former rush-mgr on its demise is
at <URL:http://rushworld.net/nmsmirror.com/>

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::Artist::
Tangerine Dream
::Admin Address::
tadream-request AT cs.uwp.edu
::Moderator Address::
datta AT cs.uwp.edu (Dave Datta)

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::Artist::
David Torn
::Admin Address::
pcole AT sseyod.demon.co.uk
::Moderator Address::
pcole AT sseyod.demon.co.uk (Pete Cole)
::Comments::
Door X - the David Torn mailing list. Current membership 100,
and growing ... including DT himself! To join, e-mail pcole AT
sseyod.demon.co.uk with a subject of SUBSCRIBE DOORX

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::Artist::
Triumvirat
::Admin Address::
russ AT triumvirat.net
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.triumvirat.net/>
::Comments::
Related to Triumvirat, Juergen Fritz and Helmut Koellen.

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::Artist::
Pere Ubu
::Moderator Address::
pereubu AT projex.demon.co.uk
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.dnai.com/~obo/ubu/>

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::Artist::
Vangelis
::Admin Address::
direct-request AT ctsx.celtech.com
::Moderator Address::
N/A

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::Name::
What's Rattlin'? (Canterbury)
::Moderator Address::
bigbang AT alpes-net.fr (Aymeric Leroy)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/calyx.html>

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::Artist::
Yes
::Admin Address::
nfte AT cms.uncwil.edu
::Moderator Address::
nfte AT cms.uncwil.edu
::Comments::

Yes and Anderson-Bruford-Wakeman-Howe related. Newsletter: `Notes
From The Edge'.

NFTE Server (lyrics, backissues, discography, rarities, surveys,
GIFs): Automated. For help send mail with subject line "send main
help" to yes-archive AT meiko.com

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::Artist::
John Zorn
::Admin Address::
zorn-request AT unh.edu
::Moderator Address::
mpj1 AT kepler.unh.edu
::Comments::
This list is for discussion of the composer/musician/producer
John Zorn, and everything he has been part of. (i.e. Naked City,
Praxis, Pain Killer, etc...)

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---------
FTP Sites
---------

The primary FTP site for progressive music related information is:

<URL:http://www.progrock.net/pub/music/prog/>

The directories include: articles, concert reviews, discographies,
interviews, Gibraltar backissues, album reviews, and much more,
including the latest version of these FAQs.

The administrator of the site is Adam Levin and you can reach
him at alevin AT ari.net if you have comments, questions, or
submissions. Note that this is a moderated site - you cannot just
put files there.

Most of the musical discographies, lyrics, interviews and other
information can be found at:

<URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/>

This site also has a number of mailing list archives and other
information but is not devoted to progressive music and has little
information about more obscure artists.

There also is an ftp site dedicated to ambient and related musics
at:

<URL:ftp://techno.stanford.edu/>

It is a repository of information about all types of ambient music,
from Eno's "pure" form to droning guitar/psych rock. It also has
a gopher server.

-----------------------------
Newsgroups Dedicated to Bands
-----------------------------

There are Usenet groups solely dedicated to particular progressive
bands. Below is a selection to give you an idea of the naming
conventions.

Dream Theater (alt.music.dream-theater)
Bela Fleck (alt.music.bela-fleck)
Peter Gabriel (alt.music.peter-gabriel)
Peter Hammill (alt.fan.peter.hammill)
Jethro Tull (alt.music.jethro-tull)
Marillion (alt.music.marillion)
Moody Blues (alt.music.moody-blues)
Phish (rec.music.phish)
Pink Floyd (alt.music.pink-floyd)
Todd Rundgren (alt.music.todd-rundgren)
Rush (alt.music.rush)
Yes (alt.music.yes)

While mentioning these bands in r.m.p is fine, long, drawn-out
discussions of their music should be kept to the appropriate
newsgroup.

-------------
FTP Via Email
-------------

Some sites have no ftp access, or have ftp access that is limited
to local or regional sites. Fortunately, you can access many FTP
sites via email.

If you ca not FTP from your site, use one of the following
ftp-by-mail servers:

ftpmail AT decwrl.dec.com
ftpmail AT src.doc.ic.ac.uk
ftpmail AT cs.uow.edu.au
ftpmail AT grasp.insa-lyon.fr

For complete instructions, send a message reading "help" to the
server. Note that the word "help" must appear in the body of the
message, not just on the subject line.

---------
WWW Pages
---------

This section merely provides pointers to central repositories
of information wherin you will find endless numbers of other
links. Keeping lists of all relevant links is simply not possible
in a finite FAQ.

The *GEPR* (see FAQ 4 and FAQ 7) is now properly on-line at its new
home in the US. There are currently two mirrors, one in Europe and
another in the US. Choose the site nearest to you for the fastest
access.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Home site (maintained by Fred Trafton)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<URL:http://www.gepr.net/>

Adam Levin also currently runs the progressive music home page that
contains a lot of interesting information including links to other
places. This can be reached at:

<URL:http://www.progrock.net/>

This site also maintains a page of links to Web pages detailing many
(some quite obscure) progressive artists. You can even access music
of various lesser known bands. Rather than duplicate all the links
here, you can find them on these pages.

The premier progressive music mailing list, Gibraltar now has a
Web page:

<URL:http://www.museum.tulane.edu/pub/gibraltar/gibraltar.html>

Also, perhaps you would like to look at the Triad Radio Web pages
at URL:

<URL:http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/triad.html>

"Triad was a progressive, free-form, innovative radio program that
aired in Chicago on WXFM-FM between 1969 and 1977. There was a lot
of interesting music that went out over the air-waves of Triad on
WXFM-FM 105.9 in the early 70's." (from the Triad Web page).

Henry Potts now maintains the alt.music.yesFAQs online at

<URL:http://www.bondegezou.demon.co.uk/amy_faq.htm>

~~~~~
iRock
~~~~~

iRock is probably the most exciting prog site on the net for new
progressive music. There are two new iRock shows a week that are
listenable via audio streaming technology from VocalTec. With
their new player client, Internet Wave, one can hear excellent
progressive rock directly off the net if you have a 28.8 connection
and TCP/IP. iRock is now the first Internet Music Radio Station
licensed to play copyright music on the net by ASCAP and BMI.
Take a look and listen to iRock at:

<URL:http://www.irock.com>
--------------------
This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
Eden
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(1) Large Austrian band with folk and classical influences
(2) French duo comparable to Spring, Gracious and Bo Hansson

Fantasia
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(1) From Finland
(2) Post-Kaipa Rione Stolt Swedish band

Finch
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(1) Netherlands prog
(2) Australian hard rock

I Flashman
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(1) USA Art-rock (without the "I")
(2) Italian pop/rock band with one prog album

Full Moon
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(1) Belgian mid 70s fusion
(2) Norwegian mid 80s prog/metal

Galaxy
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(1) Prog from Switzerland
(2) USA heavy psych

Gandalf
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(1) Austrian synthesist/guitarist
(2) Psychedelic band from early 70's

Genesis
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(1) The one everyone knows
(2) Some satanic band??
(3) Argentian prog band??

Haze
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(1) Early 70s from Germany
(2) 80s UK band

Horizant(e)
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(1) Swedish late '70s (without the "e")
(2) Argentinian band

Iconoclast(a)
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(1) Mexican prog
(2) Avant-garde /industrial band (no 'a' in the name)

iQ
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(1) British neo-progressive band
(2) German hip-hop

Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come
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Avant-weird-psych-prog band from early seventies.

Victor Periano's Kingdom Come
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US spinoff of the above, more like keyboard-oriented stadium rock.

Kingdom Come
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Late eighties Zeppelin influenced metal band.

Lethe
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(1) Italian '90s band
(2) early '80s Netherlands prog

Magdelena
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(1) mid to late '80s Japanese band
(2) early '80s Spanish band

Magma
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(1) French Zeuhl band
(2) Argentian prog band
(3) Korean band

Masque
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(1) From Japan
(2) From Sweden

Nirvana
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(1) Old British band with progressive tendencies
(2) The popular US band

Now
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(1) From Belgium
(2) From US
(3) From Japan

Octopus
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(1) German mid-'70s prog
(2) British psych/prog band from 1969.
(3) US psych/blues band, one album from 1969
(4) Norwegian symphonic band, one album in 1981

Phoenix
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(1) Romanian from '73-'75
(2) UK '76-'80 commerical prog

Providence
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(1) '90s neo-prog from Japan
(2) UK from '71 folky prog

Sand
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(1) '70s German band
(2) '70s US band

Sirius
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(1) German euro symphonic style band
(2) Japanese precursor to Mr. Sirius

Shadowland
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(1) British neo-progressive
(2) something else, put out an album named *The Beauty of Escaping*
on Geffen in 1990

Solstice
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(1) Canadian band, style unknown
(2) UK band, cross between Renaissance and Marillion

Victor
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(1) '90s Canadian Rush guitarist solo project
(2) mid-'70s symphonic prog

Wild(e) Flowers
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(1) Early Canterbury progressive band
(2) Mainstream US band??

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Are there any progressive rock radio shows?
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A few. Descriptions are not by the FAQ maintainer.
::Show::
Alternative Oldies
::Location::
New Orleans Metro Area
::Station::
WTUL 91.5 FM
::Time::
Saturday, 6-8pm
::DJ::
Mike Taylor
::Comments::
Music Played: Any rock recorded 1985 or prior. Most shows
feature at least some progressive rock and often are entirely
prog and fusion. Occasionally, the show focuses on psychedelia
and blues-rock.

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::Show::
Aural Moon
::Location::
Wichita, Kansas (Internet Broadcast Only)
::Station::
<URL:http://listen.to/auralmoon>
::Time::
24 hours a day/7 days a week
::DJ::
Davin Flateau, Jim Brennan
::Comments::
Since we're a broadcast, we play a wide variety of progressive
rock, including old and new. We love to play some more obscure
stuff, and guide people into some great groups they never knew
about, forgot about, or were too young to experience. We tend
to shy away from Dream Theater, its clones, and metal in general
(although there are exceptions). We add new music to our playlist
almost every day.

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::Show::
iRock
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.irock.com>
::Comments::
A Web radio station ... you can download the shows and listen to
them using RealAudio Player. See bottom of FAQ 5.

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::Show::
Exposure
::Location::
Key West, Florida
::Station::
See below
::Address::
43553 Ellsworth St. Suite B, Fremont, CA 94539
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.microserve.net/vradio/vr/html/nv/exposure/exposure.html>

::Time::
Every Monday evening 9PM - Midnight
::DJ::
John Szpara
::Music Played::
General progressive rock, from the early seventies on up.
::Comments::

*Station information*
WOZN 98.7 FM Key West, Florida Sunday Evening
10PM-Midnight WPLT 93.9 FM Plattsburgh, New York Sunday
Evening around 8PM-10 WOUI 88.9 FM Chicago, Illinois
Wednesday Evening 6PM-8PM

Playlists for the previous week are posted each week on r.m.p.

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::Show::
The Sheltering Sky
::Station::
WBGU, 88.1 FM
::Location::
Bowling Green, OH
::Time::
Wednesdays from 7pm to 9pm
::DJ::
Doug Maynard
::Music Played::
Broad. Anything I can get my hands on. Classic groups (Yes, ELP,
Marillion, Kansas, Crimson, Rush, Tull, Gentle Giant, etc...) as
well as newer or lesser known groups (Ozric Tentacles, Iluvatar,
Witsend). My collection is modest, but growing.

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::Show::
Sleepless
::Station::
WCWM Williamsburg, VA 90.7 FM
::Time::
Sunday 10am-noon
::DJ::
Bill Maciejewski
::WWW::
<URL:http://cs.wm.edu/~wmmaci/>
::Music Played::
I often play King Crimson, Brian Eno, Frank Zappa, Wire, Pink
Floyd, Genesis, Discipline, David Sylvian, etc. and a lot more
obscure stuff. I tend to like wierd instrumentals a lot and
probably play a lot of things people might not consider progressive
(but I do, so I play it. Ha!). See Web page for setlists etc.

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::Show::
Watcher of the Skies
::Location::
Central Arkansas, USA
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.magic105fm.com/> or <URL:http://beakerstreet.com>
::Station::
KMJX Magic 105, 105.1FM
::Time::
Every Sunday night at 9PM for approximately 30 minutes
::DJ::
"Wil Warren" (real name: James J. Warren or JJW)
::Email::
wwarren AT beakerstreet.com
::Music Played::
This prerecorded program is available (live over the radio and
the internet) every Sunday evening at 9PM Central Time (USA)
in the middle of the famous Beaker Street radio show with "Clyde
Clifford." Each Watcher of the Skies segment is devoted to an
artist or subject concerning any category of progressive rock.

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Were there not US releases of some Italian progressive albums with
the same music but lyrics in English?
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Yes, there were several. Most notably, PFM released *Storia
d'un Minuto*, *Per Un Amico*, and *L'Isola di Niente* in
Italian. Manticore (I think this was Peter Sinfield's label...he
did write the lyrics for the English verison but I have also heard
ELP started it) released *Photos of Ghosts* and *The World Became
the World* with remixed instrumentation and English vocals and
titles. These partially cover the three Italian albums. *Photos of
Ghosts* is basically all of *Per Un Amico*, plus `Generale!' which is
from *Storia d'un Minuto*. *The World Became the World* is *L'Isola
di Niente* plus the title track, from *Storia d'un Minuto*. Both
of the English versions are poor pressings, and in general, people
agree that the original Italian versions are far superior, both
technically and performance-wise.

Other bands to do the same are RDM (*Contamination* is the English
version of *Contaminazione*) and Maxophone (English version has
the same title).

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Which Focus album(s) contain "Sugar Island" and "House of the King"?
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Although "House of the King" was originally released on *Focus III*,
it's now available on the CD release of , *In and Out of Focus*.
"Sugar Island" is also available on *IaOoF*.

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What is the Mellotron and how does it work? What are related
instruments?
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From afcpeters AT aol.com (Peter Stoller): The Mellotron is a
keyboard instrument in which the sounds are produced by strips of
prerecorded analog tape dragged slowly over playback heads. Think of
it as a mechanical, analog sample-playback device. Tape `patches'
were usually of strings, choirs, flutes and such. The Beatles were
probably the first to use them, but the Mellotron was popularized by
King Crimson, the Moody Blues and Genesis. (Wakeman used them with
Yes, but they were rarely dominant. Emerson never used one.) Songs
such as Crimson's "In the Court of the Crimson King" and Genesis'
"Watcher of the Skies" are good examples of the Mellotron sound.

The Chamberlin was a similar instrument from a different
manufacturer, and Wakeman had someone build him an improved version
of the Mellotron called the Birotron. Patrick Moraz played a Vako
Orchestron, which was the same principal, but using the playback
technology employed in film projectors, rather than tape.

From rogoff AT std.teradyne.com (David Rogoff): For each key there is
a 5' length of tape (= 8sec @ 7.5''/sec). One end rests on a capstan
(rotating metal cylinder that runs the width of the whole keyboard.
On each key is a pinch roller. When you press the key down, the tape
is pressed against the capstan and starts moving. This is exactly
the same as in a cassette deck. Also under the tape (again one for
each key) is a tape playback head. So, the tape is pulled across
the head, generating the sound. If you hold the key for more than 8
seconds the sound (and the tape) just stops. When you let go of the
key, a spring pulls the tape back. This takes about a 1/8 second,
so you can't play 64th note trills on the thing. In fact, you never
want to hit the keys: you sort of push them down. The action takes
some getting used to.

Also, Each tape is 3/8" wide made up of 3 1/8" tracks for 3 different
sounds. A big lever moved the whole tape head assembly from side
to side to chose the different sounds. If you have access to a 1/2"
four track reel-to-reel you can make your own tapes pretty easily. It
just takes a long time! I've been describing the Mellotron-400,
the most common and most "portable" model.

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Eddie Jobson is credited on the King Crimson album USA. Was he ever
in the band?
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No, Jobson was not a member of Crimson, but he did get called in to
do overdubs on *USA*. Apparently Fripp had fired Cross by that point
and needed someone to do the overdubs. The majority of what you hear
on the album is Cross. Jobson did not perform the material live.

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I do a lot of tape trading in order to find out about more obscure
(non-bootleg) progressive music. Is this legal?
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Note that this response only applies to US copyright law. As of this
writing there has not been a specific legal precedent set. In other
words, a case has not been brought before a court involving taping
of non-bootleg material. The current status of the law regarding
home taping is best summed up by Terry Carroll's Copyright FAQ at:

<URL:http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/Copyright-FAQ/top.html>

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Suppose I tape an album or a CD for a friend anyway. Is this helping
or hurting the artist of the work?
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It depends who you tape it for. If you are taping it for somone
who will buy the original if they like it, then it is basically
free advertising and can only help the artist. The other person
would not have bought it anyway if they had not heard it. However,
if you are taping it for people who will just keep the copy even if
they love it, you are hurting them. It is not a clear cut help/hurt
... it depends on the idiosyncracies of the people involved. Seeing
as prog is a minority area where artists need support (and generally
deserve it), I personally make it a policy to buy every album I hear
and like on an original format. Consider it an act of tribute. I
have even baought back catalogue material when I have tape copies
that I rarely listen to. I consider it an honour to own good music
on an original format, you may be different. Use your own discretion
but be aware that what you choose to do may well be illegal and this
FAQ is certainly not suggesting any such behaviour. Tape trading in
minority music simulates, to an extent, the existence of a decent
radio network, not dominated by irrelevant financial concerns.

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What does RIO stand for?
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From afcpeters AT aol.com (Peter Stoller): Rock In Opposition. It
was an assemblage of European progressive bands who were defining
a style "in opposition" to the English language domination of the
pop music industry. Key elements were that groups sang in their
native languages (or, in Magma's case, created their own), and
they drew much of their source material from their own national
folk, popular and classical musics, instead of using the American
blues-based model.

RIO started as the name of a festival in London organised
by Henry Cow in 1978 and featuring groups from Italy, Sweden,
France and Belgium. After the concert, they decided to formalize
the coalition. They organized tours and festivals in each others
countries. According to Henry Cow drummer/lyricist Chris Cutler,
RIO as an organization failed due to political and philosophical
differences: there is no longer an official RIO, and has not been for
some time but it succeeded and has continued to grow as a cultural
phenomenon.

The original RIO artists were Henry Cow, Samla Mammas Manna,
Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Stormy Six, Art Bears, Aqsak Maboul, and
Etron Fou Leloublan. Associated artists include Magma, Albert
Marcoeur, ZNR, Feliu y Joan Albert, Musica Urbana, Goebbels
Harth, Kraldjursanstalten, Unrest, Work Play, The Residents,
Faust, L. Voag, Mnemonists, This Heat, Cassiber, Thinking Plague,
Haniwa Chan, and John Oswald. (There are, of course, many others.)
This information was derived from Cutler's book, "File Under Popular"
(see FAQ 3).

From Mike Borella (cathmike AT xnet.com): The term RIO is now used
as a way of describing some of the more indescribable musics created
today by artists that are influenced to some degree by the original
RIO artists. The "new" RIO influenced bands would include U Totem,
Thinking Plaugue, 5UU's, Lacrymosa, and maybe Banda Elastika. So
when someone says that a new band sound like RIO, you know that maybe
be influenced by RIO or are just weird/elcectic or just strange.

See Phil Zampino's (zampino AT squidco.com) Web site dedicated to
RIO artists and labels at:

<URL:http://www.panix.com/~zampino/rer/>

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How many versions of Gentle Giant's
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*Free Hand*

have been on CD, and what are the differences?
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From barrett AT cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett): There have been 4
versions on CD: two from One Way Records in the USA, and two from
Terrapin Trucking, a.k.a. Road Goes On Forever (RGOF), in Great
Britain. Summary: there are large differences between the first
three versions, and the Terrapin/RGOF versions are acknowledged by
fans to be the best.

Now for the longer answer. The first CD came from One Way Records,
number CDL 57338. This disc was mastered from inferior American
master tapes and sounds very muffled. If you turn up your treble
control, the disc sounds almost normal, but overall the sound is
mediocre.

In response to complaints from fans, One Way recalled all the old
CD's from stores, sought out better master tapes, and rereleased
*Free Hand* with the SAME identification number, CDL 57338. It is
not possible to distinguish between the first and second *Free Hand*
CD's from the packaging. The only way to tell by eye is to open
the package and examine the code number stamped on the disc rim.
The old disc says "AM6/CDL 57338", and the new disc says "ESK 1 <010>
CDL 57338".

The second One Way disc has much better sound. The master tape that
One Way used, however, is a very strange one. It is not the same
tape that was used for any previous release of the album, and the
music is actually different from the original! In "Time To Kill",
Derek Schulman sings some of the lines instead of Ray Schulman;
for example, `And with no questions then, he finds his way'. In
"On Reflection", the drums come in half a verse earlier than in the
original. And worst of all, at the climax of "On Reflection", when
the full band comes crashing in, the drums are barely audible! This
CD is worth owning because it is different from any previous release,
but it is notrepresentative version of the album.

Next, Terrapin/RGOF released their first *Free Hand* disc,
identification number RGF CD 1004. It uses the correct master tapes
and has very good sound quality. I find it a little bit bass-heavy,
but it is much better than the other versions. Some fans complained
that the disc had too much hiss, and Terrapin/RGOF remastered it to
remove hiss, giving the disc a new identification number, TRUCKCD
004. Reportedly, the differences between the two Terrapin/RGOF
discs are minor. If you own only 1 *Free Hand* CD, get this one.

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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
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