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Group: rec.music.progressive · Group Profile
Author: yes pink van led black rock!yes pink van led black rock! Date: Aug 5, 2007 10:27
On Aug 4, 9:55 pm, "RichL" yahoo.com> wrote:
>
I dont trust this list. RYM is much better. It is site rating for all
genres. Jazz, classical... everything. There is a reason I picked it.
It is not BIASED to any taste.
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/cathcacr/most_albums_in_the_rym_top_1000/
There were 70 bands/artists with 3 albums in top 1000 in April this
year (the ratings and rankings are dynamic by the way).
Miles Davis
11,897 points
21 studio albums, 3 live, 2 close
3 in top 100
7 in top 250
15 in top 500
Highest ranked album: Kind of Blue (#5)
2
John Coltrane
7,279 points
11 studio albums, 3 live
3 in top 100
5 in top 250
7 in top 500
Highest ranked album: A Love Supreme (#1)
3
Charles Mingus
5,320 points
9 studio albums, 1 live
3 in top 100
6 in top 500
Highest ranked album: Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (#6)
4
Frank Zappa
3,192 points
8 studio albums, 2 live, 1 close
1 in top 250
3 in top 500
Highest ranked album: Hot Rats (#104)
5
The Beatles
6,023 points
7 albums, 1 close
5 in top 100
6 in top 250
Highest ranked album: Revolver (#2)
6
Bob Dylan
5,137 points
7 albums, 1 close
5 in top 100
Highest ranked album: Highway 61 Revisited (#4)
7
Neil Young
4,870 points
7 studio albums, 2 live
2 in top 100
5 in top 250
Highest ranked album: After the Gold Rush (#55)
8
Thelonious Monk
4,754 points
6 studio albums, 1 live
5 in top 250
6 in top 500
Highest ranked album: Brilliant Corners (#122)
9
Led Zeppelin
4,389 points
6 albums
1 in top 100
4 in top 250
5 in top 500
Highest ranked album: Led Zeppelin IV (#22)
10
Pink Floyd
4,149 points
6 studio albums, 1 live
2 in top 100
3 in top 250
5 in top 500
Highest ranked album: Dark Side of the Moon (#13)
11
Johnny Cash
3,007 points
5 albums
(#'s 51, 197, 351, 545, 854)
Highest ranked album: At Folsom Prison
12
Black Sabbath
2,982 points
5 albums, 1 close
(#'s 106, 186, 248, 619, 864)
Highest ranked album: Paranoid
13
Elvis Costello
2,650 points
5 albums
(#'s 98, 259, 549, 829, 915)
Highest ranked album: This Year's Model
14
Opeth
2,454 points
5 albums, 1 close
(#'s 152, 207, 576, 722, 894)
Highest ranked album: Blackwater Park
15
The Rolling Stones
3,728 points
4 albums, 1 close
(#'s 38, 54, 89, 95)
Highest ranked album: Sticky Fingers
16
Jimi Hendrix
3,228 points
4 studio albums, 2 live
(#'s 15, 30, 129, 602)
Highest ranked album: Are You Experienced?
17
Death
3,130 points
4 albums
(#'s 88, 124, 305, 357)
Highest ranked album: The Sound of Perseverance
18
David Bowie
3,086 points
4 albums
(#'s 14, 62, 204, 638)
Highest ranked album: Ziggy Stardust
19
The Velvet Underground
2,964 points
4 studio albums, 1 live
(#'s 7, 78, 179, 776)
Highest ranked album: The Velvet Underground & Nico
20
Tom Waits
2,956 points
4 albums, 1 close
(#'s 50, 225, 344, 429)
Highest ranked album: Rain Dogs
21
King Crimson
2,780 points
4 studio albums, 2 live
(#'s 69, 73, 327, 755)
Highest ranked album: In the Court of the Crimson King
22
John Williams
2,743 points
4 albums, 1 close
(#'s 108, 109, 517, 527)
Highest ranked albums: Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars
23
The Kinks
2,704 points
4 albums, 1 close
(#'s 23, 188, 239, 850)
Highest ranked album: The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation
Society
24
The Who
2,408 points
4 studio albums, 2 live
(#'s 34, 441, 475, 646)
Highest ranked album: Who's Next
25
Van Morrison
2,122 points
4 albums
(#'s 59, 134, 713, 976)
Highest ranked album: Astral Weeks
26
Brian Eno
2,081 points
4 albums
(#'s 174, 290, 467, 992)
Highest ranked album: Another Green World
27
Iron Maiden
1,973 points
4 albums, 2 live
(#'s 323, 395, 457, 856)
Highest ranked album: The Number of the Beast
28
Van Der Graaf Generator
1,940 points
4 albums
(#'s 215, 566, 618, 665)
Highest ranked album: Pawn Hearts
29
Joni Mitchell
1,861 points
4 albums
(#'s 125, 543, 593, 882)
Highest ranked album: Blue
30
Parliament
Along with Funkadelic
1,728 points
4 albums
(#'s 373, 422, 670, 811)
Highest ranked album: Maggot Brain
31
Funkadelic
Along with Parliament
32
Bob Marley (& The Wailers)
1,670 points
4 albums
(#'s 267, 348, 730, 989)
Highest ranked album: Exodus
33
Nick Drake
2,639 points
3 albums
(#'s 36, 85, 243)
Highest ranked album: Pink Moon
34
Radiohead
2,485 points
3 albums
(#'s 9, 224, 285)
Highest ranked album: OK Computer
35
Frank Sinatra
2,466 points
3 albums, 2 close
(#'s 130, 161, 246)
Highest ranked album: Songs for Swingin' Lovers!
36
Can
2,430 points
3 albums
(#'s 146, 170, 257)
Highest ranked album: Tago Mago
37
Stevie Wonder
2,364 points
3 albums
(#'s 60, 120, 459)
Highest ranked album: Innervisions
38
Ramones
2,354 points
3 albums, 1 live
(#'s 116, 149, 384)
Highest ranked album: Ramones
39
Genesis
2,278 points
3 albums
(#'s 127, 273, 325)
Highest ranked album: Selling England By the Pound
40
Herbie Hancock
2,254 points
3 albums
(#'s 167, 265, 317)
Highest ranked album: Empyrean Isles
41
Duke Ellington
2,164 points
3 albums, 1 live
(#'s 45, 193, 601)
Highest ranked album: Far East Suite
42
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
2,124 points
3 albums
(#'s 159, 339, 381)
Highest ranked album: Lift Your Skinny Fists
43
Metallica
2,044 points
3 albums, 1 live
(#'s 46, 227, 686)
Highest ranked album: Master of Puppets
44
The Stooges
1,980 points
3 albums
(#'s 44, 209, 770)
Highest ranked album: Fun House
45
Wire
1,971 points
3 albums
(#'s 189, 208, 635)
Highest ranked album: Pink Flag
46
Ennio Morricone
1,939 points
3 albums
(#'s 123, 324, 617)
Highest ranked album: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
47
Slayer
1,862 points
3 albums, 1 live
(#'s 42, 370, 729)
Highest ranked album: Reign in Blood
48
Current 93
1,749 points
3 albums
(#'s 318, 328, 608)
Highest ranked album: Thunder Perfect Mind
49
Sonic Youth
1,675 points
3 albums
(#'s 79, 263, 986)
Highest ranked album: Daydream Nation
50
Yes
1,669 points
3 albums
(#'s 49, 514, 771)
Highest ranked album: Close to the Edge
51
Ornette Coleman
1,657 points
3 albums
(#'s 43, 546, 757)
Highest ranked album: The Shape of Jazz to Come
52
Os Mutantes
1,518 points
3 albums
(#'s 244, 448, 793)
Highest ranked album: Os Mutantes
53
Talking Heads
1,492 points
3 albums, 1 live
(#'s 70, 548, 893)
Highest ranked album: Remain in Light
54
Ulver
1,448 points
3 albums
(#'s 200, 407, 948)
Highest ranked album: Bergtatt
55
Bruce Springsteen
1,435 points
3 albums
(#'s 187, 632, 749)
Highest ranked album: Born to Run
56
Judas Priest
1,385 points
3 albums
(#'s 286, 431, 901)
Highest ranked album: Painkiller
57
Neurosis
1,370 points
3 albums
(#'s 487, 505, 641)
Highest ranked album: Through Silver in Blood
58
Creedence Clearwater Revival
1,363 points
3 albums
(#'s 190, 524, 926)
Highest ranked album: Cosmo's Factory
59
Kraftwerk
1,296 points
3 albums
(#'s 322, 483, 902)
Highest ranked album: Die Mensch Machine
60
The Fall
1,273 points
3 albums
(#'s 449, 473, 808)
Highest ranked album: Hex Enduction Hour
61
The Byrds
1,212 points
3 albums
(#'s 445, 526, 820)
Highest ranked album: Younger Than Yesterday
62
Steely Dan
1,137 points
3 albums
(#'s 301, 624, 941)
Highest ranked album: Aja
63
Alice Cooper
1,132 points
3 albums
(#'s 536, 540, 795)
Highest ranked album: Billion Dollar Babies
64
Captain Beefheart
1,099 points
3 albums
(#'s 443, 538, 923)
Highest ranked album: Safe as Milk
65
Big Star
1,056 points
3 albums
(#'s 389, 607, 951)
Highest ranked album: Radio City
66
Howard Shore
945 points
3 albums
(#'s 585, 704, 769)
Highest ranked album: The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
67
Porcupine Tree
892 points
3 albums
(#'s 590, 631, 890)
Highest ranked album: In Absentia
68
John Zorn
856 points
3 albums
(#'s 476, 818, 853)
Highest ranked album: The Circle Maker
69
Swans
792 points
3 albums
(#'s 559, 789, 863)
Highest ranked album: White Light From the Mouth of Infinity
70
Rush
716 points
3 albums
(#'s 326, 961, 1000)
Highest ranked album: Moving Pictures
>> In alphabetical order!
>> Beatles
>> King Crimson
>> Kinks
>> Led Zeppelin
>> Pink Floyd
>> Rolling Stones
>> Talking Heads
>> Velvet Underground
>> Who
>> Yes
>
>> I guess most of us would agree on almost all the bands on the list,
>> except may be King Crimson, Yes and Talking Heads?
>
> Raja -- here's another perspective on this "rating" stuff:
> "Top 100 albums of all time" (all genres): http://www.albumvote.co.uk/files/albums.shtml
>
> The only band with five albums in the top 100 is the Beatles.
>
> Next comes a short list of bands/acts with three in the top 100:
> Bob Dylan
> Pink Floyd
> Radiohead
> The Rolling Stones
> Led Zeppelin
>
> Finally, the following have two in the top 100:
> David Bowie
> Coldplay
> The Clash
> The Jimi Hendrix Experience
> Joy Division
> Manic Street Preachers
> Nirvana
> Oasis
> Elvis Presley
> REM
> Smashing Pumpkins
> Bruce Springsteen
> U2
>
> NOTE THE ABSENCE OF THE FOLLOWING BANDS WHICH ARE ROUTINELY ON YOUR LISTS:
> Yes
> Can
> Van der Graaf Generator
> Kraftwerk
> and many others.
>
> So what's the point?
> It's not that "my list is better than your list".
> It's that the lists are so different!
> And what makes this web site any better, or any worse, than
> rateyourmusic.com?
> Nothing!
> They purport to do the same thing! But the answers are different!?
> So what's up? I'll tell you.
>
> Each web site attracts a different portion of the listening community. This
> one, I would imagine, has more younger listeners (note the presence of
> several late 80s, 90s, and 00's bands that are absent on rateyourmusic).
>
> So, is one more valid than another? NO!
> WHY?
> Because it's all subjective!
> Here's your proof!
> If you have another explanation, please do tell!
>
> Otherwise, can the lists! Please!- Hide quoted text -
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