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Group: rec.music.progressive · Group Profile
Author: Tracy_Barber
Date: Jul 16, 2006 15:41

On 16 Jul 2006 14:30:32 -0700, progea@hotmail.com wrote:
>Tracy_Barber@frontiernet.net wrote:
>
>> On 15 Jul 2006 16:12:17 -0700, progea@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Tracy_Barber@frontiernet.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15 Jul 2006 11:49:49 -0700, progea@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Tracy_Barber@frontiernet.net inquires:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2006 09:46:53 -0700, progea@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where's the Romanian version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Germans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image001.gif
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>French
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image002.gif
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Italians
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image003.gif
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Americans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/13/image004.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =======================
>>>>>> Tracy Barber
>>>>>> -----------------------
>>>>>> adirondack-pc
>>>>>> -----------------------
>>>>>> "Freebie Stamp Project"
>>>>>> =======================
>>>>>
>>>>>As of now, Romanians might be Americans' closest ally in Iraq.
>>>>>Americans had actually sold Romanians @ Yalta '45 and then again @
>>>>>Malta '89, but that's ok, though. Sez the still current Romanian
>>>>>president in his once upon a time navy admiral filthy language (and
>>>>>later also as the country's transportation minister of 12 years under
>>>>>governments of four different colours, and also as the capital city's
>>>>>mayor): "If I am to cock-suck from anyone, then I prefer to cock-suck
>>>>>from the big guy, not from all the fireflies out there".
>>>>>
>>>>>Translation (even though he can also be classy as requested by his job
>>>>>- when he wants): "When you're a small country that nobody has heard of
>>>>>or knows to locate on a map, you have to be with the only remaining big
>>>>>one, not in failed entente-s and treaties".
>>>>>
>>>>>So, bottom line is: as much as I wanted to share the German, objective
>>>>>vision, I can't...
>>>>
>>>> Actually, the Romanians sold themselves to Germany for most of World
>>>> War II under Antonescu and then signed on to the Allies later.
>>>>
>>>> But, that's OK too. :)
>>>>
>>>> =======================
>>>> Tracy Barber
>>>> -----------------------
>>>> adirondack-pc
>>>> -----------------------
>>>> "Freebie Stamp Project"
>>>> =======================
>>>
>>>Romanians actually have a history of twice in a row betraying the same
>>>WW ally and this is not ok, though. The entire country as is now, might
>>>have inherited this precisely from the northeastern region where I too
>>>was born - from the Stephen "the Great" voivode that people down there
>>>even nowadays cry for 500++ years later. He was notorious in betraying
>>>even 2-3 times the same ally, mostly the then neighbouring Poland.
>>>Well, those are NOT my standards, actually. But that's Balkans, a
>>>powder barrel always, but it seems the bomb exploded again somewhere
>>>else nowadays. My point, however is: in sports, events, society,
>>>whatever, life in general: violence in any form is, of course,
>>>unacceptable, and also condemnable. But then again, the guilt first
>>>belongs to THE ONE WHO PROVOKES. This was my conclusion from examining
>>>reports from various sources on the same incident. It obviously
>>>reflects my viewpoint on my treatment here.
>>
>> Where does the U.S., however, play into the Israeli / Lebanese
>> scenario just erupting - since we're the ones who always shoot and
>> asked questions later? :)
>>
>> You know that the U.S. is behind every sort of uprising and rebellion,
>> yes?
>>
>> [ Breaks out M16, ready to go to war. Hunkers down and waits for
>> incoming scuds or Kyatushas to hit from Hezbollah. ]
>>
>> Just my .02 on the issue... we have been the world's scapegoat for
>> decades now - for humor, war, and in between.
>>
>> =======================
>> Tracy Barber
>> -----------------------
>> adirondack-pc
>> -----------------------
>> "Freebie Stamp Project"
>> =======================
>
>No, no, no, no, Tracy, I'm not that "everybody's envy but everybody
>wants to get in" biased. I'm even trying to drop my background while
>we're having this conversation, in order for me to be able to carry on
>this conversation with you. What happens there has nothing to do with
>George Bush this time. It's just what the heck they are doing there,
>man! And I'm sick and tired of seeing Barretts dying, Lebanese dying,
>and the scum of the USENET, Mike Smith, Sullivan, TeakBois,
>SlubberdeGullion, Mark Rae still alive and well, man! There are idiots
>among us who never get the Zidane incident lesson, man! Unless you
>provoke, you don't get crap, man! If no one else is capable of catching
>this USENET fauna and send it to die in Lebanon and Iraq, then I'm out
>to get them on my own. But it will be too painful for them if I catch
>them, man. Also, the Israeli Prime Minister and their defense minister
>should be included in this catch. Otherwise we become 6 billions of
>Hitlers against 500 millions of whom only the artists and their fans
>are worht preserving. We are already too many on this planet and some
>among these are just plain, extra, unnecessary burden that has to die
>for fuck's sake: USENET fauna.

Yes, you may have a few fans here. I'm just talking about all of the
hype that gets piled on the U.S. for anything that happens in the
world. We'd probably get the credit for the Hale-Bopp comet if the
world had its way.

I stood in line, waiting to be drafted, but they didn't call my number
up. The jungle weather in 'Nam would've been rough on me anyway. I
do other things to fight different wars. (rmp here doesn't count as a
warfront.)

The entire world has passed the buck in one way or another, over time.
If we blame one place then we have to blame another, because the other
was involved in the first incident. It keeps on cascading like that
all the time. Like in the Middle East.

The Israeli can't seem to win, no matter what they do. They lose in
WWI, they lose in WWII, they fight for a homeland and still lose.
Although on paper, it looks good that they won the battles, but the
war hasn't finished yet. And I'm not Jewish, btw...

The rest of the countries over there were subservient to the Euro
rulers for many year and before that the Ottomans. It would be much
easier if everyone would get along in the world sandbox, but that's
insane to think like that.

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Tracy Barber
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adirondack-pc
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"Freebie Stamp Project"
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