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Author: Governor SwillGovernor Swill Date: Jun 3, 2007 07:55
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 02:47:28 -0700, "Nic" mlode.com>
wrote:
>> Folk is far closer related to bluegrass and old country than to any
>> form of rock.
>First of all, folk music should always be first traced back to Europe or any
>indiginous people, because that is the essense of the words folk music...
>music of the folk. There was folk music long before bluegrass, from Ireland,
>Scotland, England and Scandanavia. Much of this lead to the gathering of
>American folk music in the late 1700's and 1800's. Irish tunes later
>influenced Appalacian tunes. Therefore folk music is far closer related to
>music of the Celts and Irish tunes, not bluegrass, because bluegrass is the
>offspring of Irish tunes and songs.
Well, that didn't make any sense. You strive to distance bluegrass
from folk, accurately placing folk origins in Europe and particularly
Ireland and then make a fool of yourself by saying that bluegrass
comes from Irish music. Nothing you said disagreed with what I wrote.
Folk, bluegrass and old country are related and appeared in roughly
that order.
I'm already familiar with what you said despite your poor attempt to
express it.
Folk music as we know it came from the common forms of music listened
to by well, the common people of Europe. There was a rather high
proportion of immigrants to NA from the British Isles and Scandinavia
so American folk traditions hail primarily from the Isles. Yes,
bluegrass also stems from those same roots as does Old country, the
kind from before Hank Williams.
Folk-->Bluegrass-->Old Country and all with their roots in the common
melodies and themes of the working man and serving man of Europe and
specifically the British Isles and Scandinavia.
And Western music. The cowboys' twist on that same folk base with the
guitar as the principal instrument. That's the Spanish influence from
the southwest. So, more accurately, the folk line of development
includes bluegrass, country and western the latter two merging into
modern country and western or C&W.
Folk music's relationship to modern rock is rather different since it
involved the outside influence of black music into the folk tradition
via rock and roll which also owed a debt to swing. Rock evolved from
this with the coming of electrification and amplification. This
folk/jazz/blues connection gives us modern rock.
Modern country his picked up a good bit of blues as well primarily
because of the popularity of electric guitar in C&W and rock and the
subsequent crossing over of playing styles. But that blues influence
stems more from rock than directly from black music. Listen to a Tim
McGraw album and you'll hear guitar work that wouldn't be out of place
in a seventies rock show. Many, many modern country artists,
particularly male ones, would have been labeled "country rock" thirty
years ago.
Swill
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