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Author: ZaragonZaragon Date: Jul 11, 2007 11:33
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Author: David ChandlerDavid Chandler Date: Jul 11, 2007 13:50
On Jul 11, 11:33 am, "Zaragon" CHOPDASPAMcomcast.net>
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Colosseum have been high up on a list of British bands from the late
60s and 70s that I've been wanting to hear.
But I wouldn't call them brass rock because I associate that term with
cheesy American AM shit like Blood Sweat and Tears and Chicago.
These Colosseum tracks sound like a real mix of rock, jazz, blues and
progressive.
Thanks Z.:-)
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Author: ZaragonZaragon Date: Jul 11, 2007 14:31
>"David Chandler" hotmail.com> wrote in message>>On Jul 11, 11:33 am, "Zaragon" CHOPDASPAMcomcast.net>wrote:
>> The cr
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Author: gregioannougregioannou Date: Jul 11, 2007 18:08
On Jul 11, 5:31 pm, "Zaragon" CHOPDASPAMcomcast.net> wrote:>>"David Chandler" hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>On Jul 11, 11:33 am, "Zaragon" CHOPDASPAMcomcast.net>> wrote:
>>> The crème de la crème of British brass rock can be seen as well as heard
> in
>>> five superlative slices of glory right here:
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>>> --
>>> TS
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Author: ZaragonZaragon Date: Jul 13, 2007 12:06
>> I can see how the term *brass rock* might turn off many an Anglophile,
given
>> how this US-associated genre drew heavily from the Stax/Volt sound and
>> (befittingly enough) the brassy strains of 60's MOR pop. Likewise, a
couple
>> fellows on PE concurred just recently that they well prefer the British
>> variant of the brass rock sound. Indeed, many bands in the "top friends"
of
>> Colosseum fit this UK-centric notion of brass rock as well, namely the
>> Greatest Show on Earth, Galliard and Brainchild.
>My favourites of the style were Trio and the Peddlars. Trio were
>almost straight jazz, and the Peddlars other than one top-40 style
>(and terrific) single called Birth were very jazz/proggy.
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Author: Jeff BlanksJeff Blanks Date: Jul 14, 2007 00:49
David Chandler hotmail.com> wrote:
> Colosseum have been high up on a list of British bands from the late
> 60s and 70s that I've been wanting to hear.
> But I wouldn't call them brass rock because I associate that term with
> cheesy American AM shit like Blood Sweat and Tears and Chicago.
I don't know much about Blood, Sweat and Tears, but if "cheesy American AM shit"
is all you think about with regard to Chicago, you might wanna get schooled a
bit. Yes, they did that (Zaragon's right about the '60s MOR influence, and I
might mention the "downtown sound" as well), but it wasn't necessarily their
main thrust early on.
> These Colosseum tracks sound like a real mix of rock, jazz, blues and
> progressive.
Add "cheesy American AM shit" to this list and you've got a good idea of the
early Chicago style (up through *V*, I guess). Hearing, say, the complete album
track of "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" can be a real
cosmic-fabric-ripper; you start to hear the MOR as *real music*.
--
"There is no excellent beauty which hath not some
strangeness in the proportion." --Sir Francis Bacon
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Author: MHFMHF Date: Jul 14, 2007 17:30
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:49:47 GMT, Jeff Blanks mindspring.com>
wrote:
>David Chandler hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Colosseum have been high up on a list of British bands from the late
>> 60s and 70s that I've been wanting to hear.
>> But I wouldn't call them brass rock because I associate that term with
>> cheesy American AM shit like Blood Sweat and Tears and Chicago.
>
>I don't know much about Blood, Sweat and Tears,
You really should check them out. Just get their greatest hits album
for starters. I listen to B,S,&T year after year and they always sound
great to me. This has been going on now for about 37 years now. A
very powerful super tight horn section with an excellent rhythm
section featuring one bad sumbitch on the drum kit Mr. Bobby Columby.
They are not a pop band that is for sure. A musicians band all the
way. I have to admit their guitarist was out of his league in that
band. Luckily the horns were there to drown out the guitarist.
Regards
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Author: Sturgeon's LawyerSturgeon's Lawyer Date: Jul 14, 2007 19:18
On Jul 11, 1:50 pm, David Chandler hotmail.com> wrote:
> ...I wouldn't call (Colosseum) brass rock because I associate that term with
> cheesy American AM shit like Blood Sweat and Tears and Chicago.
> These Colosseum tracks sound like a real mix of rock, jazz, blues and
> progressive.
> Thanks Z.:-)
Sir,
If you think either BST or Chicago (well, during their first several
years) were
"cheesy American AM shit" -- well, I can only suppose that you've only
heard
the AM singles. (And even some of those were hardly cheesy shit.)
Check out the debut album by BST, or Chicago's fifth album (really,
anything
with a number below 8) and you'll hear that both these bands wrote and
played
a lot of amazing stuff that you just ain't going to hear on the radio.
(Plus, Chicago had Jimi Hendrix's "favorite guitarist.")
--Dan'l
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Author: David ChandlerDavid Chandler Date: Jul 20, 2007 12:58
On Jul 14, 7:18 pm, Sturgeon's Lawyer gmail.com> wrote:> On Jul 11, 1:50 pm, David Chandler hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> ...I wouldn't call (Colosseum) brass rock because I associate that term with
>> cheesy American AM shit like Blood Sweat and Tears and Chicago.
>> These Colosseum tracks sound like a real mix of rock, jazz, blues and
>> progressive.
>> Thanks Z.:-)
>
> Sir,
>
> If you think either BST or Chicago (well, during their first several
> years) were
> "cheesy American AM shit" -- well, I can only suppose that you've only
> heard
> the AM singles. (And even some of those were hardly cheesy shit.)
>
> Check out the debut album by BST, or Chicago's fifth album (really,
> anything
> with a number below 8) and you'll hear that both these bands wrote and ...
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Author: ZaragonZaragon Date: Jul 21, 2007 08:50
>> On Jul 11, 1:50 pm, David Chandler hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> ...I wouldn't call (Colosseum) brass rock because I associate that
term with
>>> cheesy American AM shit like Blood Sweat and Tears and Chicago.
>>> These Colosseum tracks sound like a real mix of rock, jazz, blues and
>>> progressive.
>>> Thanks Z.:-)
>>
> Well maybe they do.
> And maybe you noticed what I think about all American rock.
>
I'm curious as to what the underlying principle is behind your disdain for
most (all?) American music?
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