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Author: Jim ZJim Z Date: Jun 14, 2008 16:34
Hi all,
I am in the market for a Martin D-35 for a graduation
present. I do not play and know nothing about guitars.
I found one selling locally for $1500. The serial number
looks like it puts it around 1972. Was this a good year ?
Are new ones better ? What should I look for in a
good used guitar ?
Thanks
Jim
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Author: Steve DanielsSteve Daniels Date: Jun 14, 2008 19:26
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:34:54 -0400, against all advice, something
compelled "Jim Z" tricomachine.com>, to say:
> Hi all,
>
> I am in the market for a Martin D-35 for a graduation
> present. I do not play and know nothing about guitars.
> I found one selling locally for $1500. The serial number
> looks like it puts it around 1972. Was this a good year ?
> Are new ones better ? What should I look for in a
> good used guitar ?
A D-28.
The D-35 was built with a three piece back because the supply of
Brazilian Rosewood was running out and they needed to make use of
smaller pieces of wood. It was a compromise at best, dull and
lifeless at worst, best suited for the drunken singing of John
Denver songs around a campfire.*
Get a D-28. For the same money, you'll get a much nicer guitar.
* Not that there's anything wrong with that.
--
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Author: Wade Hampton MillerWade Hampton Miller Date: Jun 14, 2008 19:42
Steve Daniels wrote:
>
> The D-35 was built with a three piece back because the supply of
> Brazilian Rosewood was running out and they needed to make use of
> smaller pieces of wood. It was a compromise at best, dull and
> lifeless at worst, best suited for the drunken singing of John
> Denver songs around a campfire.*
>
> Get a D-28. For the same money, you'll get a much nicer guitar.
>
>
Geez, Steve, don't sugarcoat it, tell us what you really think!
Jim, the D-35 is one of those guitars people either love or hate.
Obviously Steve is not a fan!
I'm not much of a fan of D-35's, either, but some people truly love
them.
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Author: Steven BornfeldSteven Bornfeld Date: Jun 14, 2008 19:45
Steve Daniels wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:34:54 -0400, against all advice, something
> compelled "Jim Z" tricomachine.com>, to say:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am in the market for a Martin D-35 for a graduation
>> present. I do not play and know nothing about guitars.
>> I found one selling locally for $1500. The serial number
>> looks like it puts it around 1972. Was this a good year ?
>> Are new ones better ? What should I look for in a
>> good used guitar ?
>
> A D-28.
>
> The D-35 was built with a three piece back because the supply of
> Brazilian Rosewood was running out and they needed to make use of
> smaller pieces of wood. It was a compromise at best, dull and
> lifeless at worst, best suited for the drunken singing of John
> Denver songs around a campfire.* ...
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Author: Jim ZJim Z Date: Jun 14, 2008 21:02
Thank you all for the replies.
The reason for the D-35 is my son is a huge
Dave Matthews fan, and I have been reading that
his guitar of choice is a D-35. Am I correct ?
I have also heard he plays a Taylor. Another brand
I know nothing about.
Jim
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> Steve Daniels wrote:
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Author: Al EvansAl Evans Date: Jun 15, 2008 05:15
In article nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"Jim Z" tricomachine.com> wrote:
> Thank you all for the replies.
> The reason for the D-35 is my son is a huge
> Dave Matthews fan, and I have been reading that
> his guitar of choice is a D-35. Am I correct ?
I don't know much about Dave Matthews, but Martin does make a D35-like
"Dave Matthews" model, so he must have some connection with them.
Anyway, with regard to the rather negative responses so far:
Especially with a 36-year-old guitar, it all depends on the individual
instrument, its condition, and the context in which it is used. One of
the best individual guitars I know is Michael P. Smith's D35 which,
unless I'm remembering wrong, was made in 1972. It's perfect for his
voice and the way he plays.
I agree with WHM's suggestion, though
-- take a good guitar player with
you to evaluate it.
--Al Evans--
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Author: ShermSherm Date: Jun 15, 2008 05:19
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:15:29 -0500, Al Evans tbtm.org> wrote:
>In article nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Jim Z" tricomachine.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for the replies.
>> The reason for the D-35 is my son is a huge
>> Dave Matthews fan, and...
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Author: Ken S. (remove 'ohno' to reply)Ken S. (remove 'ohno' to reply) Date: Jun 15, 2008 05:26
Jim Z wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am in the market for a Martin D-35 for a graduation
> present. I do not play and know nothing about guitars.
> I found one selling locally for $1500. The serial number
> looks like it puts it around 1972. Was this a good year ?
> Are new ones better ? What should I look for in a
> good used guitar ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
>
>
Jim,
If you can take your son with you shopping, that would be best. Let him
try out a number of guitars, and pick the one that works for him.
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Author: alcarruthalcarruth Date: Jun 15, 2008 05:34
The three piece back in itself doen't make any difference in the sound
so far as I can tell. Martin does sort the top wood by visual
characteristics for the various models, and while that's far from a
great indicator of tone potential, it may have some bearing. I was
told that they tend to use tops that have wide grain spacing in the
center for the -35s. I haven't looked at enough of those to be able to
testify to that from experience. At any rate, if that's true, and if,
as can happen, that wide grain spacing correlates with somewhat lower
cross grain stiffness, that would account for a bit of difference in
timbre.
As al Evans said, with something in that age bracket, from _any_
maker, it's more about the individual instrument, and how it's been
cared for, than it is about the model.
Alan Carruth / Luthier
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Author: Ed MaierEd Maier Date: Jun 15, 2008 05:45
Jim Z wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am in the market for a Martin D-35 for a graduation
> present. I do not play and know nothing about guitars.
> I found one selling locally for $1500. The serial number
> looks like it puts it around 1972. Was this a good year ?
> Are new ones better ? What should I look for in a
> good used guitar ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
>
>
Jim, I bought a circa 2000 D-35 and mine sounds *very* nice. (If it
didn't, I wouldn't have bought it.) :-) A few of the guys in this
group have played it.
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