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Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: MadameHussein
Date: Jun 16, 2008 05:59

Would anyone here have seen KK play this track? Is it performed/
recorded using one of these 'modelling' guitars or has she been using
an oud or something similar. It's a bit magical, innit. If it is a
modelling guitar, would the slurs' particulars be built in to the
sound's data or manually achieved?

Thanks.
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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: JimLowther
Date: Jun 16, 2008 07:44

On Jun 16, 7:59 am, MadameHussein hotmail.com> wrote:
> Would anyone here have seen KK play this track?  Is it performed/
> recorded using one of these 'modelling' guitars or has she been using
> an oud or something similar.  It's a bit magical, innit.  If it is a
> modelling guitar, would the slurs' particulars be built in to the
> sound's data or manually achieved?
>
> Thanks.

Is Mike King still frequenting RMMGA? He should know if anyone does.

Best wishes,

Dr. Jim Lowther
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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: performingchimp
Date: Jun 16, 2008 11:34

MadameHussein wrote:
> Would anyone here have seen KK play this track? Is it performed/
> recorded using one of these 'modelling' guitars or has she been using
> an oud or something similar. It's a bit magical, innit. If it is a
> modelling guitar, would the slurs' particulars be built in to the
> sound's data or manually achieved?
>
> Thanks.

It's a great track, people on the ng should check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZjeZ0chWx4

I don't know what it is, but an oud is a definite possibility!

I don't think it's a modelled sound - if it is I am mightily impressed.

If you want that sound yourself on a budget, you can get some cool
sounds by sliding stuff under the strings at the first fret, or bewteen
the strings at the bridge. Like bits of paper, plastic, etc. It kills
the sustain and can either add or remove attack, depending on the
softness of what you use.

Jon

www.jongomm.com
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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: McCollum
Date: Jun 16, 2008 13:31

"MadameHussein" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Would anyone here have seen KK play this track? Is it performed/
> recorded using one of these 'modelling' guitars or has she been using
> an oud or something similar. It's a bit magical, innit. If it is a
> modelling guitar, would the slurs' particulars be built in to the
> sound's data or manually achieved?
>
> Thanks.
>
I bet I know how she does it, its a richard leo johnson trick! Put a pencil
under the strings on the fret board and push down and it sounds like a
koto!!!
Lance

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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: John Sorell
Date: Jun 16, 2008 13:54

"McCollum" mccollumguitars.com> wrote in
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> "MadameHussein" hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:96346d78-57e5-4765-9151-2f3db39a3dbf@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com.
> ..
>> Would anyone here have seen KK play this track? Is it performed/
>> recorded using one of these 'modelling' guitars or has she been using
>> an oud or something similar. It's a bit magical, innit. If it is a
>> modelling guitar, would the slurs' particulars be built in to the
>> sound's data or manually achieved?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> I bet I know how she does it, its a richard leo johnson trick! Put a
> pencil under the strings on the fret board and push down and it
> sounds like a koto!!!
> Lance

Under the strings at which fret?
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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: Geezer
Date: Jun 16, 2008 14:33

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>> "MadameHussein" hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:96346d78-57e5-4765-9151-2f3db39a3dbf@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com.
>> ..
>>> Would anyone here have seen KK play this track? Is it performed/
>>> recorded using one of these 'modelling' guitars or has she been using
>>> an oud or something similar. It's a bit magical, innit. If it is a
>>> modelling guitar, would the slurs' particulars be built in to the
>>> sound's data or manually achieved?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>> I bet I know how she does it, its a richard leo johnson trick! Put a
>> pencil under the strings on the fret board and push down and it
>> sounds like a koto!!! ...
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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: McCollum
Date: Jun 16, 2008 15:43

put it at the 15 fret pluck the string and bend the string on the other side
of the pencil1
you can also pluck on the nut side and it sounds better!
Lance

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Author: John Sorell
Date: Jun 16, 2008 16:04

"McCollum" mccollumguitars.com> wrote in
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> put it at the 15 fret pluck the string and bend the string on the
> other side of the pencil1
> you can also pluck on the nut side and it sounds better!
> Lance

Hey! It sounds like a Taylor.

John
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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: performingchimp
Date: Jun 17, 2008 06:04

McCollum wrote:
>>
> I bet I know how she does it, its a richard leo johnson trick! Put a pencil
> under the strings on the fret board and push down and it sounds like a
> koto!!!
> Lance

Have you heard the track? I don't think that method can be right, as
it's mostly fretted notes. I don't see how you could play regular
fretted notes with that method. The bends she does are quite tame enough
to have been done in the normal way.

HOWEVER I am now going to try the pencil trick anyway! I am quite
excited about it. I found this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFbBL5T7wKc

Actually sounds pretty good to me!

Jon
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Re: Kaki King 'Nails' - any info?         


Author: MadameHussein
Date: Jun 17, 2008 07:04

I may have had a memory failure, as it transpires I'd been involved in
a posting where the answer was before. Search - obscurely enough! -
Kaki king Nails:

"This is a 'hidden' track on the CD. David had brought this tiny
guitar
he'd made called a 'kotar'. When you plucked a string with your right
hand and then bent the string with your left, it makes a 'biong'
sound
like a koto. I would sit on the couch and play the kotar when I had a
break, and this song just came out."

So now I'm thinking about finding some cheap instrument to adapt to
try and get this sound. Possibly one of the oriental instruments at
hobgoblin.co.uk
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