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Author: Bob HarperBob Harper Date: Apr 8, 2008 18:48
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Author: Richard LoebRichard Loeb Date: Apr 8, 2008 19:15
"Bob Harper" comcast.net> wrote in message
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Entirely expected and predictable rehash of the same old stuff - filled with
errors and biases. I just can't take him seriously. Richard
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Author: Bob LombardBob Lombard Date: Apr 8, 2008 19:15
Bob Harper wrote:
That article doesn't tell us what he thinks (if anyone is interested)
but what he puts in print. That is so loaded with hyperbole that there
is little room for anything else. The anti-Karajan faction will love
it, the pro-Karajan faction will hate it, and Norman's saleability
will benefit.
bl
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Author: HKAlanHKAlan Date: Apr 8, 2008 19:56
On Apr 8, 10:15Â pm, Bob Lombard vermontel.net> wrote:>
> That article doesn't tell us what he thinks (if anyone is interested)
> but what he puts in print. That is so loaded with hyperbole that there
> is little room for anything else. The anti-Karajan faction will love
> it, the pro-Karajan faction will hate it, and Norman's saleability
> will benefit.
>
> bl
I'm a Karajan fan, but if I disliked his music-making, I think I'd now
feel compelled to re-assess it.
Alan
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Author: StephenStephen Date: Apr 8, 2008 20:33
On Apr 8, 9:48 pm, Bob Harper comcast.net> wrote:
Lebrecht is a fact-independent provocateur who lives on the attention
that he garnishes by making over-the-top statements that are taken up
by the media that love noise and controversy and don't have the tools
to sort out what is true from what is not.
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Author: TareeDawgTareeDawg Date: Apr 8, 2008 20:34
Kimba W Lion wrote:
> Bob Harper comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Inquiring minds want to know why Stormin' Norman doesn't *really* tell
>> us what he thinks :)
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> "For music lovers, there is not much to celebrate. Once the centenary is
> over, we will drop the curtain once and for all on a discreditable life that
> yielded no fresh thought and upheld no worthwhile human value. Karajan is
> dead. Music is much better off without him."
>
> Wow.
>
> And here I thought I was alone--constantly looking for more room to house
> both CDs and vinyl and not one HvK recording in the lot, now or ever.
Truly amazing how lebrecht becomes the man of the Month, simply because
his article, which wouldn't pass muster in any decent school, makes
stupid generic remarks about a musician so far beyond his own mindless
imagination, it beggars belief.
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Author: Walter TraprockWalter Traprock Date: Apr 8, 2008 20:43
> "For music lovers, there is not much to celebrate. Once the centenary is
> over, we will drop the curtain once and for all on a discreditable life that
> yielded no fresh thought and upheld no worthwhile human value. Karajan is
> dead. Music is much better off without him."
>
> Wow.
'these musicians from young Germany are maggots, that quicken from
corruption. They have no bone, nor flesh, nor blood, nor marrow.
The end of their being is to prey on the ailing trunk, until it
becomes putrid and rotten'
coming to theatres soon: written by Norman Bates, The Kurse of Karajan,
starring Peter Cushing
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Author: Steve de MenaSteve de Mena Date: Apr 9, 2008 00:51
Richard Loeb wrote:
> "Bob Harper" comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:We-dnUR7F8fovWHanZ2dnUVZ_ruqnZ2d@comcast.com...>
> Entirely expected and predictable rehash of the same old stuff - filled with
> errors and biases. I just can't take him seriously. Richard
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Author: Terry SimmonsTerry Simmons Date: Apr 9, 2008 15:37
In article 4ax.com>,
Kimba W Lion wrote:
> Bob Harper comcast.net> wrote:
> >>Inquiring minds want to know why Stormin' Norman doesn't *really* tell
>>us what he thinks :)
>
> "For music lovers, there is not much to celebrate. Once the centenary is
> over, we will drop the curtain once and for all on a discreditable life that
> yielded no fresh thought and upheld no worthwhile human value. Karajan is
> dead. Music is much better off without him."
>
> Wow.
>
> And here I thought I was alone--constantly looking for more room to house
> both CDs and vinyl and not one HvK recording in the lot, now or ever.
Your loss, in my opinion.
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Author: TareeDawgTareeDawg Date: Apr 10, 2008 01:02
Kimba W Lion wrote:
> Terry Simmons tpgi.com.au> wrote:
> >>> both CDs and vinyl and not one HvK recording in the lot, now or ever.
>> Your loss, in my opinion.
>
> I can always spot a Karajan performance, but in a backwards sort of way: If
> one is on the radio, I end up thinking, "I _like_ this piece, why does my
> mind keep wandering away from it? Oh! Must be Karajan." And it is.
An excellent response to the feelings I have of *some* of Fluffy's
recordings. The thing is, they generally do bear close repeated
listening, at least to these ears, but what you say does make sense.
> (On the other hand, Maazel recordings are riveting in a train wreck sort of
> way.)
Clipped, angular, and sometimes downright detached and boring for a lot
of his work. But at his best, very very good.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
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