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Re: NYT: Columbus Orchestra May Suspend Activities (more)         


Author: John Bryant
Date: May 13, 2008 07:34

On May 13, 3:28 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" earthlink.net> wrote:
> John Bryant googlemail.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed in news:1d3288ad-9c23-4f06-8dd2-
> ef1985dc7...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On May 12, 8:54 pm, ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote:
>
>>> Or a fondness for something they can put their name on.  I remember
>>> reading about how the good burghers of Manchester were always more eager
>>> to finance a new concert hall than the orchestra that played in it.  
>
>>> Brendan
>
>> I imagine that's because Manchester is also home to the BBC Philharmonic,
>> arguably a much finer orchestra and funded by the BBC by way of the licence
>> fee. Incidentally, both orchestras use the Bridgewater Hall.
>
> That's...
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: El Klauso
Date: May 13, 2008 12:00

On May 13, 9:12 am, El Klauso verizon.net> wrote:
> AB: I didn't know Columbus had an orchestra.  My experience with Ohio
> is that once you get about fifty miles south of Cleveland, you might
> as well be in Alabama.
>
> EK: Tsk, tsk...Written in a spirit of whimsical provocation, I'm sure
> - However...
>
> Columbus is admittedly an odd case - despite a metro population of
> over 700,000, they have always seemed a bit reticent about fully
> supporting a major orchestra.(As a contrast, little old Syracuse New
> York, with a Metro population about one third the size of Columbus,
> supports a bigger orchestra with a longer season, and has stayed in
> the black for a good many years...)
>
> This lack of civic enthusiasm has occurred despite a history which
> included Gunther Herbig as an Artistic Advisor
> between 2003 and 2005. The downtown Ohio theater is a nice-looking if
> somewhat cavernous facility, and the city, while having is financial
> problems, has a average per capita income that compares favorably with ...
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: El Klauso
Date: May 13, 2008 12:03

AB: I didn't know Columbus had an orchestra.  My experience with Ohio
is that once you get about fifty miles south of Cleveland, you might
as well be in Alabama.
EK: Tsk, tsk...Written in a spirit of whimsical provocation, I'm sure
However...
Columbus is admittedly an odd case - despite a metro population of
over 700,000, they have always seemed a bit reticent about fully
supporting a major orchestra.(As a contrast, little old Syracuse New
York, with a Metro population about one third the size of Columbus,
supports a bigger orchestra with a longer season, and has stayed in
the black for a good many years...)
This lack of civic enthusiasm has occurred despite a history which
included Gunther Herbig as an Artistic Advisor
between 2003 and 2005. The downtown Ohio theater is a nice-looking if
somewhat cavernous facility, and the city, while having is financial
problems, has a average per capita income that compares favorably with
cities boasting fairly well-attended, relatively economically stable,
full-season ensembles.
It is a true puzzlement - Can any Buckeyes out there give us some
background as to why Orchestral Music doesn't fly in Columbus? ...
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: Will Vaughan
Date: May 13, 2008 12:42

El Klauso wrote:
> AB: I didn't know Columbus had an orchestra. My experience with Ohio
> is that once you get about fifty miles south of Cleveland, you might
> as well be in Alabama.
> EK: Tsk, tsk...Written in a spirit of whimsical provocation, I'm sure
> However...
> Columbus is admittedly an odd case - despite a metro population of
> over 700,000, they have always seemed a bit reticent about fully
> supporting a major orchestra.(As a contrast, little old Syracuse New
> York, with a Metro population about one third the size of Columbus,
> supports a bigger orchestra with a longer season, and has stayed in
> the black for a good many years...)
> This lack of civic enthusiasm has occurred despite a history which
> included Gunther Herbig as an Artistic Advisor
> between 2003 and 2005. The downtown Ohio theater is a nice-looking if
> somewhat cavernous facility, and the city, while having is financial
> problems, has a average per capita income that compares favorably with
> cities boasting fairly well-attended, relatively economically stable,
> full-season ensembles.
> It is a true puzzlement - Can any Buckeyes out there give us some ...
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Date: May 13, 2008 12:50

"Will Vaughan" sbcglobal.net> appears to have caused the
following letters to be typed in
news:PamWj.3444$nW2.2358@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:
> 1) Lack of a true center of the city - they roll up the downtown streets
> at around 6pm. Very few real resturants that are close to the orchestra,
> horrible parking and a general lack of enthusiasm for anything going on
> in the heart of the city.

That didn't hurt the St. Paul Chamber Orchestra, at least during the '80s
when I was living in Minneapolis, but there were compensations.

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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: news.verizon.net
Date: May 13, 2008 13:54

"El Klauso" verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8330cd73-7bb9-406d-addb-b47edac8869b@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
As to the rest of the state, last time I checked, Cincinnatti was
still part of Ohio. Cinci is a historically proven musical entity,
with the 5th oldest orchestra in the nation and a musical tradition
that goes back to an active concert life as early as the 1820's.

---

Cincinnati? Isn't that in Kentucky? :)
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: Wayne Brown
Date: May 13, 2008 14:33

A. Brain nospamatt.net> wrote <2hdWj.328228$cQ1.223098@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> in rec.music.classical.recordings:
>
> I didn't know Columbus had an orchestra. My experience
> with Ohio is that once you get about fifty miles south of
> Cleveland, you might as well be in Alabama.

I'll take this opportunity to point out that Alabama has a very fine
symphony orchestra of its own: http://alabamasymphony.org/

And here are a few excerpts from what "The New Yorker" music critic Alex
Ross had to say about it last year:

"A young Romanian concertmaster, Daniel Szasz, leads a violin section
that plays with exceptional finesse and force. Winds and brass are
rough in places, but passionate in their attack. All told, the orchestra
calls to mind one of those old-school Central European ensembles that
make up for a few technical shortcomings with musical intelligence and
authentic style... Last fall, Alabama brought in a new music director,
the English conductor and pianist Justin Brown. He strikes me as a
conductor of substance... In less than a year, Brown has established
the Alabama as one of the country's most adventurous regional orchestras."

The full text of Ross's article is here:
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: Steve de Mena
Date: May 13, 2008 14:48

Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> "Will Vaughan" sbcglobal.net> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in
> news:PamWj.3444$nW2.2358@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> 1) Lack of a true center of the city - they roll up the downtown streets
>> at around 6pm. Very few real resturants that are close to the orchestra,
>> horrible parking and a general lack of enthusiasm for anything going on
>> in the heart of the city.
>
> That didn't hurt the St. Paul Chamber Orchestra, at least during the '80s
> when I was living in Minneapolis, but there were compensations.

Or the Los Angeles Philharmonic? :) I know there are many fine
restaurants downtown, but the streets are pretty empty after weekday
business hours.

Steve
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: TareeDawg
Date: May 13, 2008 16:12

> "El Klauso" verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:8330cd73-7bb9-406d-addb-b47edac8869b@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> As to the rest of the state, last time I checked, Cincinnatti was
> still part of Ohio. Cinci is a historically proven musical entity,
> with the 5th oldest orchestra in the nation and a musical tradition
> that goes back to an active concert life as early as the 1820's.
>
> ---
>
> Cincinnati? Isn't that in Kentucky? :)

Is that some 'local' joke? Of course, Doris Day wouldn't like to be
thought of as being born in Kentucky.

Ughhhhh!!!!

Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
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Re: Regional orchestras/operas *Was: NYT: Columbus Orchestra)         


Author: John Bryant
Date: May 13, 2008 17:37

On May 14, 12:12 am, TareeDawg bigpond.com>
>> Cincinnati?  Isn't that in Kentucky?  :)
>
> Is that some 'local' joke? Of course, Doris Day wouldn't like to be
> thought of as being born in Kentucky.
>
> Ughhhhh!!!!
>
> Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree

Who was it who said he knew Doris Day before she was a virgin?

JB.
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