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Group: rec.music.classical.guitar · Group Profile
Author: michaelthames1
Date: Jun 27, 2008 03:05

On Jun 26, 11:50 am, michaeltham...@mac.com wrote:
> On Jun 26, 10:51 am, Rob Balsamo yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 26, 12:39 pm, "matan...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I have no idea if it did or did not, and neither do you. I'll grant
>>> you it is impossible for a 757 to execute such a maneuver, when it was
>>> flown by you or by me.
>
>> Attaboy, now you're getting it...
>
>>>But I have no idea what it would do when flown
>>> by an Arab with very little flying experience, who knows well he is
>>> about to die.
>
>> So an Arab who couldnt control a 172 at 65 knots can control a 757 at
>> more than 150 knots over Vmo? Control Surface flutter and all? Center
>> of pressure movement? Mach Tuck in thick air.. with such a steady hand
>> to get a 44 foot high object completely into a 77 foot high object
>> without over shooting or touching the lawn? This is what you think and
>> accept? Not to mention the fact that somehow these Arabs were able to
>> get a 757 to perform outside its structural design capabilities
>> pulling G's in excess of 35 G's to level out from a 26,000 fpm dive
>> instantaneously? This is what you think? Really? Who did you fly for?
>> Im sure other pilots would like to know.
>
>>> In any case, all of this is simply petty parsing of evidently corrupt
>>> data which serves no useful purpose,
>
>> So you accept the NTSB distributing "corrupt" data, without a
>> disclaimer, through the Freedom of Information Act to the American
>> Public.. with your tax dollars? ok.... (rolleyes). Andy doesnt seem to
>> want this to happen and wants an explanantion if thats the case. Dont
>> you Andy.... shall i get the link? I think Andy feels its "silly" to
>> let the govt disribute such data you say is corrupt or in error
>> without a disclaimer.
>
>> I'll give you a little insight Ace. The FDR cross checks the way it is
>> now. If you correct for one "error", it domino's into other
>> parameters. You do know what cross-check means dont you MO?
>
>>  >as long as you cannot explain
>
>>> where the 757 went if it did not impact the Pentagon, and what
>>> happened to the people on board.
>
>> You play right into the Disinfo Rule Book.. congrats MO!
>
>
>>>This is not a Piper Cub you can hide
>>> in a barn. And you cannot explain away the disappearance of the entire
>>> human population of the aircraft by saying it unknowable.
>
>>> Now let me get this straight: the FDR was found in the Pentagon
>>> wreckage. Right?
>
>> Click and read...
>
>> Can The Govt Get Their Story Straight? - Location Of Flight Data
>> Recorderhttp://pilotsfor911truth.org/FDR_location_091607.html
>
>   Rob yea some guy on this group by the name of Robert Crim posted
> this linkhttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90696597
>
> It goes so far to say they both discovered three corpus of the
> hijackers 100 feet beyond the 3rd ring.  They also claim to have
> miraculiusly been there in front of the Pentagon and actually had to
> duck when the UA77 almost hit them.  Imagine they servived the thrust
> from the engines and were not washed into the Patomic.  LOL
>
>   MT
>
>
>
>> Lies, Conflicting Reports, Cover-Up's
>> Location of American 77 Flight Data Recorder - Part IIhttp://pilotsfor911truth.org/location_2.html
>
>>> How the Hell did it get there without the rest of the aircraft?
>
>> Got a serial/part number for that FDR? (or any part?) The FBI/NTSB
>> didnt seem to think getting part numbers were important.
>
>> F.B.I. Counsel: No Attempt Made By F.B.I. To Formally Identify 9/11
>> Plane Wreckagehttp://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=11403&hl=
>
>> Unprecedented.

On Jun 26, 11:53 am, Rob Balsamo yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 1:30 pm, michaeltham...@mac.com wrote:
>
>
>
>> But did I not predicte, you would go down in flames?
>
>> MT
>
> ok.. well that was fun... i'll be getting back to work now. Keep an
> eye out for a new production in which we explain in detail that it is
> impossible for a 757 to have performed in such a manner the govt story
> would like you to believe. Should b done soon. And yes Andy.. it will
> be free on the web as well as on DVD. Doesnt it really get your
> panties in a bind people support our work? Family members and friends
> of the victims too! Imagine that....
>
> Have a good one folks...
>
> MT, try not to beat up on them too much... i think they'll need a few
> days to recover from this beating. :-)
>
> See ya on the forums!

Rob, Let me take this time to thank you on behalf of all the true
patriots who frequent this chatline. I know from private emails,
there are many here who support your important work but for various
reasons can't, or don't publicly declare so, in fear of loosing their
livelihoods, or being ridiculed. I shall be sending Pilots for truth
a small donation as well ordering some DVD's. I know they are
available for free online YouTube and Google, but I would prefer a
copy that is crystal clear. I'm greatly looking forward to your
newest project! For those of you addicted to reality TV this is where
it's at!

Rob, for the record, I've made my living as a luthier for the past
35 years. I've achieved a small amount of success over the years, and
have made close to 700 handmade guitars.

I'm sure you've heard govt loylists proclaim if this conspiracy is
true, why don't more people come forth?

Case in point. Andrew Sculmann placed a potential order with me a few
months back. He said he couldn't get a guitar now based on various
circumstances, but I was the first on his list once he got the money
together! I wrote Sculmann back with a less than enthusiastic reply
basically saying it was unnecessary to get a guitar from me, and his
guitars were probably better anyway. This reply went over Andies head
and he remained unaffected in his enthusiasm.

A few days ago I expressed my beleif that Al Quada was a fabrication
of our own government to Shulmann. A barrage of vulgarities,
character assassination etc. ensued along with an announcement on this
public forum of the unconditional withdrawal of his potential order,
from me. Richard Yates then announced because I question the Govt
loyalists my method of evolving as a guitar maker were now in
question.

I say this to you Rob because this is a Govt loyalist talking point,
"why don't more people come forth". Schulmann in a post to me argued
against the case a person would be fired from their job if they came
forth with information. But, I think Schulmann just fired me!!!
LOL!

Best of luck with your endevors, and I'll see you on your forum,
Michael
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