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Re: OT: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: jeff carter
Date: May 12, 2008 07:06

On May 11, 10:38�am, la...@deack.net wrote:
> On May 11, 7:24�am, jeff carter aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> That's funny, I was trying to make it out during the video, too. You
>> can see it better right at the end:
>
>> I have no job
>> I have no car
>> I have no money
>> But I'm in a band
>
>> --Jeff
>
> � �I saw that as he leaned in at the end. Funny (recursive) how that
> slogan is so commercial. Any idea where it came from?

I guess it's just a natural extension of all the guitarist/bassist/
drummer jokes.
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: JMF
Date: May 13, 2008 00:01

"Tommy Grand" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Friends,
>
> The Beatles have been ruined for me (I won't go into details). What
> other musical acts have an equally rewarding oeuvre?
>
> Thanks in advance.

More than once, I have heard people say that the Beach Boys (=Brian Wilson)
could be put up against the Beatles as the best rock band of all time. Never
quite understood that claim, although as I said, I've heard it more than
once from independent quarters. Musically speaking, I can see their point a
bit more - lyrically speaking, it's hard to imagine comparing "Surfin' USA"
with "Yesterday" ;-)

John
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: Andrew Schulman
Date: May 13, 2008 08:46

On May 13, 3:01 am, "JMF" wrote:
> More than once, I have heard people say that the Beach Boys (=Brian Wilson)
> could be put up against the Beatles as the best rock band of all time. Never
> quite understood that claim, although as I said, I've heard it more than
> once from independent quarters. Musically speaking, I can see their point a
> bit more - lyrically speaking, it's hard to imagine comparing "Surfin' USA"
> with "Yesterday" ;-)
>
>
Here's why all those '60's groups produced so much great music. They
grew up in the '40's and '50's and listened, and absorbed by osmosis,
a great deal of classical music and the high end of popular music -
Gershwin, Kern, etc.

Especially true of the Brits as classical music was most of what they
heard on the BBC.

This is not my "theory". There are various interviews with the
Beatles (see the intro to Mark Lewisohn's "The Beatles Recording
Sessions") and others about this.
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: JMF
Date: May 13, 2008 09:23

"Andrew Schulman" panix.com> wrote in message
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On May 13, 3:01 am, "JMF" wrote:
> More than once, I have heard people say that the Beach Boys (=Brian
> Wilson)
> could be put up against the Beatles as the best rock band of all time.
> Never
> quite understood that claim, although as I said, I've heard it more than
> once from independent quarters. Musically speaking, I can see their point
> a
> bit more - lyrically speaking, it's hard to imagine comparing "Surfin'
> USA"
> with "Yesterday" ;-)
>
>
Here's why all those '60's groups produced so much great music. They
grew up in the '40's and '50's and listened, and absorbed by osmosis,
a great deal of classical music and the high end of popular...
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: Andrew Schulman
Date: May 13, 2008 11:01

On May 13, 12:23 pm, "JMF" wrote:
> * ... and once again, refer to "The Rest Is Noise" (which I'm reading right
> now) and the discussions of what the Beatles and others were doing at that
> time, which confirm what you've said here. - John
>
>
I like Alex Ross' writing, thanks for the reminder to buy his book!

Andrew
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: JMF
Date: May 13, 2008 11:19

"Andrew Schulman" panix.com> wrote in message
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On May 13, 12:23 pm, "JMF" wrote:
> * ... and once again, refer to "The Rest Is Noise" (which I'm reading
> right
> now) and the discussions of what the Beatles and others were doing at that
> time, which confirm what you've said here. - John
>
>
> I like Alex Ross' writing, thanks for the reminder to buy his book!
> Andrew

It really is quite a remarkable book. And it has generated all kinds of
reviews - including this recent one:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/article3848743...

Indeed, as the review says, it is unsurpassed for its discussion of music
during the great totalitarian regimes (Nazi and Soviet).
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: larry
Date: May 13, 2008 11:24

On May 13, 11:19 am, "JMF" wrote:
> "Andrew Schulman" panix.com> wrote in message
>
>> * ... and once again, refer to "The Rest Is Noise" (which I'm reading
>
> Yes, buy it for sure.
>
> John

Thanks guys for the addition to the RMCG book list. Looks like another
good one.
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: Andrew Schulman
Date: May 13, 2008 11:37

On May 13, 2:24 pm, la...@deack.net wrote:
> Thanks guys for the addition to the RMCG book list. Looks like another
> good one.
>
>
BTW, I am halfway through the Levitin book. Thanks for the
recommendation.

I am also down to my final two of the "Maigret" detective series by
Georges Simenon. 84 books! He's the master of the genre. And one
actually has a suspect that plays the guitar.

Andrew
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Re: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: JMF
Date: May 13, 2008 12:28

deack.net> wrote in message
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On May 13, 11:19 am, "JMF" wrote:
> "Andrew Schulman" panix.com> wrote in message
>
>> * ... and once again, refer to "The Rest Is Noise" (which I'm reading
>
> Yes, buy it for sure.
>
> John
> Thanks guys for the addition to the RMCG book list. Looks like another
> good one.

To be honest, it had already gone through the RMCG list once before, and
rather recently (although after I started reading it). I remember they were
lamenting the fact that there wasn't much on guitar composers, just a little
bit on Villa-Lobos (that's true, although since he mentions Britten and
Berio you could probably make a case that there's a little more than that).
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Re: OT: Alternatives to the Beatles         


Author: pmfan57
Date: May 15, 2008 11:32

On May 10, 5:41 pm, Tommy Grand yahoo.com> wrote:
> Friends,
>
> The Beatles have been ruined for me (I won't go into details).  What
> other musical acts have an equally rewarding oeuvre?
>
> Thanks in advance.

In rock the Beatles aren't going to be topped quality wise in my op.
Capitol-era Sinatra is pretty amazing.
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