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Author: Volker BartheldVolker Bartheld Date: Jun 9, 2008 02:34
Hi!
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:24:41 -0700 (PDT), Sundance wrote:
> With these gas prices going higher than a rocket I'm starting to be
> fearful on the negative impact this will have on our sport. [...]
> So what changes to your riding routine have yous seen?
I try to avoid as much "useless" rides/commutations as possible (that
necessarily includes my car) and go by bicycle as often as possible and
save "quality fuel" for dirtbiking during the week-ends. I favour
local/nearby tracks over those at a long distance. I chose a rather small
car and put the bike on a trailer rather than dragging around the useless
weight of a gas guzzling van/pickup 90%% of the time.
> How much will the price per gallon have to climb till you start
> cutting back?
I already start(ed) cutting back but would prefer to call it
prioritization. BTW, the issue with the gas prices is a much more serious
one here in Germany. Currently, we're at EUR 3.79 per gal of unleaded
premium fuel, which is about 6USD/gal. My vehicle has a consumption of
about 8l/100km which aequivalents 2.11Gal/62.1mls, about 30mls/gal.
> Has parking the bike or just riding local happen yet?
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Author: Tiago RochaTiago Rocha Date: Jun 9, 2008 06:23
On Jun 9, 6:34 am, Volker Bartheld wrote:
> Currently, we're at EUR 3.79 per gal of unleaded
today's prices for US gallon in US dollars, calculated with today's
exchange rate:
Gasoline, regular: $6.1
Gasoline, premium: $6.4
Alcohol, ethanol from cane sugar: $3.8
Diesel, low sulphur: $4.5
and we still ride. Bikes doesn't take much fuel anyway and honestly,
why do you need a V6 or bigger when a simple 4 cyl. compact can haul
you, two friends, your gear, your friends gear and three bikes on a
trailer?
-- Tiago
there is still the option of running the engine on CNG, but I don't
take that as an option for *me*. It is even cheaper than burning
ethanol. I really don't like the idea of hauling a gas cylinder on my
trunk all the times...
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Author: Mike W.Mike W. Date: Jun 9, 2008 07:30
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:34:29 +0200, Volker Bartheld
wrote:
> I chose a rather small
>car and put the bike on a trailer rather than dragging around the useless
>weight of a gas guzzling van/pickup 90%% of the time.
>
>I Currently, we're at EUR 3.79 per gal of unleaded...
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Author: RowdyRowdy Date: Jun 9, 2008 07:57
Tiago Rocha wrote:
> On Jun 9, 6:34 am, Volker Bartheld wrote:
>
>> Currently, we're at EUR 3.79 per gal of unleaded
What a bargain. (though i faintly recall sub dollar prices
for payment w/cash in L.A. in the mid eighties)
> Gasoline, premium: $6.4
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Author: Volker BartheldVolker Bartheld Date: Jun 9, 2008 08:12
Hi!
>> On Jun 9, 6:34 am, Volker Bartheld wrote:
>>> Currently, we're at EUR 3.79 per gal of unleaded
> What a bargain.
Well. Must have been a slight problem with all those unit conversions.
1.5EUR per litre of premium pump gas today. 8.5$/gal. Oh well.
> 1 gal = 3.785 L
> 1 EUR = 1.572 USD
THX for reminding. I'm getting 38 tomorrow, please apologize cerebral
deficits that might come along with that age.
> boils down to $7.61 per gallon, and i still don't care.
Why should you?
> Hey, it's motorcycle riding, my number one hobby. The more
> the gas price soars the more i'll ride and the less i'll drive.
Yep. Exactly. Offroad riding that is, in my case.
Cheers,
Volker
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Author: Joseph RooneyJoseph Rooney Date: Jun 9, 2008 08:52
"Mike W." emailbiz.com> wrote in message
news:dmbq44h0iqq1k4rko5ckt27cfd815pajr0@4ax.com...> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:34:29 +0200, Volker Bartheld
> wrote:
>
>> I chose a rather small
>>car and put the bike on a trailer rather than dragging around the useless
>>weight of a gas guzzling van/pickup 90%% of the time.
>>
>>I Currently, we're at EUR 3.79 per gal of unleaded
>>premium fuel, which is about 6USD/gal. My vehicle has a consumption of
>>about 8l/100km which aequivalents 2.11Gal/62.1mls, about 30mls/gal.
>>
>>There is
>>no basic right granting a citizens (individual) mobility. Claiming to be
>>dependent on a privatly ownned motorized vehicle is just equivalent to
>>accommodativeness IMHO. And there's the urgent need for downsizing:
Nobody
>>*needs* a infotainement- and goodie-stuffed tank weighing 1.5 tons or
more ...
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Author: Volker BartheldVolker Bartheld Date: Jun 9, 2008 08:52
Hi!
> Setting aside for a moment that never once [...] made it though a social event [...]
> without the
> unstoppable-once-it-has-started event of all the German dudes apologizing
> for Hitler
*LOL* Well, the Nazi-argument is still the strongest one of all. I usually
don't participate in such discussions, because they bore me to hell and
there really are bigger, more interesting topics than this one.
> Hysterical over-reaction is the hallmark of the uninformed or the partially
> informed.
Hmmm. I don't see myself in here - my point of view is pretty pragmatic. I
concentrate on things with more benefit instead of wasting money for things
I could live without. Others may have other focuses - I'm not on a crusade
here and sure do I know that there are inevitable sources of environmental
pollution. But does that mean that one shouldn't ponder a little about how
to save some bucks and probably waste a little less resources at the same
time? NB: I'm not talking about self-mortification or moving into a
cloister etc.
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Author: Mike W.Mike W. Date: Jun 9, 2008 10:12
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:52:43 +0200, Volker Bartheld
wrote:
>Hi!
>
>> Setting aside for a moment that never once [...] made it though a social event [...]
>> without the
>> unstoppable-once-it-has-started event of all the German dudes apologizing
>> for Hitler
>
>*LOL* Well, the Nazi-argument is still the strongest one of all. I usually
>don't participate in such discussions, because they bore me to hell and
>there really are bigger, more interesting topics than this one.
THANK GOD for everyone named Volker:)
>
>> Hysterical over-reaction is the hallmark of the uninformed or the partially
>> informed.
>
>Hmmm. I don't see myself in here - my point of view is pretty pragmatic.
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Author: Mike W.Mike W. Date: Jun 9, 2008 10:14
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:52:51 -0700, "Joseph Rooney"
pcmagic.net> wrote:
>
>Mike,
>
>Does this mean you are not going to buy a Toyota Prius?
>
>Joe
Brain had a brilliant idea of what to do with one that I have been enamored
of since he mentioned it. Should I get a few spare heartbeats before I die,
I'd like to do that. It does involved some level of modification.
M
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Date: Jun 9, 2008 11:03
Rowdy wrote:
> Tiago Rocha wrote:
>> On Jun 9, 6:34 am, Volker Bartheld wrote:
>>
>>> Currently, we're at EUR 3.79 per gal of unleaded
>
> What a bargain. (though i faintly recall sub dollar prices
> for payment w/cash in L.A. in the mid eighties)
"When it hits a dollar a gallon there will be PLENTY of gas..."
Isn't it still cheaper than it was Way Back When when inflation is taken
into account? Or is it?
--
Cheers,
Bev
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'Politics' comes from an ancient Greek word meaning
'many blood-sucking leeches.' -- Mark Russell
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