On Mar 1, 8:24 pm, GreenDistantStar
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wrote:> On Mar 1, 9:02 pm, Renli
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>>> On Mar 1, 7:47 pm, GreenDistantStar
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>>> Yes, just wondrous, eh?
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>> Here's a quote:
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>> "What is Chi/Qi?
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>> Chi is the Intrinsic Energy which sustains the configuration and
>> integrity of all forms and substances in the Universe. It is the Life
>> Force which regulates the ebb and flow of the vitality of all things.
>> It is referred to as rlung in Tibetan, prana in Sanskrit, ki in
>> Japanese. Aristotle referred to it as the souls of energy that exist
>> throughout nature where signs of life are to be found."
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>>> I call bullshit.
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>> Of course it's bullshit. Chi, rlung, ki, prana, and Aristotle's souls
>> of energy are all completely different things. For one thing, anyone
>> who was familiar with Chi flow would not describe it as an intrinsic
>> energy which sustains the configuration of /anything/ in the universe,
>> because that is not what it does.
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>> Now carefully consider the following quote pulled from a separate
>> section of the website:
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>> "
>> How does Chi travel within the Human Body?
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>> Chi travels within the human body via an energy grid of eight mai (chi
>> vessel), twelve jin (chi meridian), and a complex network of luo
>> (minor chi capillaries). The principal role of the eight mai is to
>> serve as chi reservoirs for the entire body and to maintain a
>> consistent supply of chi flow to all the organs, extremities and body
>> parts through twelve branches of jin. From these twelve jin - each of
>> which is associated with a specific organ - millions of luo branch out
>> to carry chi flow to the skin, to the marrow, as well as conveying chi
>> interaction between the organs."
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>> This actually does not answer the question how it travels - however,
>> it is certainly a conflicting definition compared to the first one.
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>> Furthermore, upon quick perusal of the other pages, in
particularhttp://www.pathgate.org/pi_intro_cia_00.htmlitbecomes apparent that
>> what is being taught at this center is not something which is well-
>> defined. Who knows what the hell you're being taught? Certainly not
>> all of Shaolin, Wing Chun, Tai Chi, Hsing-I Chuan, Nei Kung, Shen
>> Kung, Pa Kua, Yi-Chuan, or Liu Ho Pa Fa.
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>> Or any one of them.
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>> What a confusing website.
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> A 'master' gives his definitions, and they're incongruous? How
> hilarious.
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> None of the recently posted 'masters' know what you know, eh?
Nope - take his video which you posted. The footage of him throwing
5-10 ppl off in push hands is fucking ridiculous. I've commented on
that scam a number of times on this NG. In short if it isn't an
intentional act of deception it is just conditioning combined with a
lack of realistic training. Right off the bat I will tell you that
what they are doing isn't even really push hands, I can tell by
looking.
> So, which fraud do we believe....him or you?
We could also believe you, since we're forced to make a choice. But
why would we? You don't have the depth of experience I do in these
things, do you? Unless you are misrepresenting yourself as being more
knowledgeable than you really are - which really *would* be a form of
fraud. But you're not doing that, are you?
At any rate I've given you no reason to believe I was a fraud in the
same way that the video gives you a reason to believe he is a fraud.
Or
> What fits the facts is that it's just a load of crap, designed to
> delude the gullible rubes, and YOU are without doubt, the most
> gullible rube of them all.
Excuse me - didn't I just say I agreed with your call of bullshit?
Doesn't that mean you're a bigger rube for calling bullshit first? Or
is this just an example of you ignoring the plain as day facts right
in front of your eyes?
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