> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>

>> On Apr 15, 8:13 pm, aspasia wrote:

>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:51:00 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

>

>>> hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>On Apr 14, 2:04 am, aspasia wrote:

>>>>> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:48:33 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"

>

>>>>> nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>>>>>>In article
>>>>>>n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> Sheldon aol.com> wrote:

>

>>>>>>> The only reason folks buy cast iron cookware is because it's cheap,
>>>>>>> and they are too poor or miserly to buy real cookware or they enjoy
>>>>>>> playing pilgrim.

>

>>>>>>You don't have kids or a wife, do you.

>

>>>>>>It's a great way to get iron into the diet.

>

>>>>> You couldn't HIRE me to use those non-stick coatings which migrate
>>>>> into the user's system with bad consequences.  Feh!

>

>>>>Do you have a citation to a refereed scientific journal that describes
>>>>those
>>>>bad consequences?

>

>>>>Cindy Hamilton

>

>>> I hope you don't mind if I suggest you do your own research.  I've
>>> seen a great deal on-line and in hard media over the years attesting
>>> to the damage done to people by fumes from these pans.  But that
>>> material may not rise to the scientific level of assurance you
>>> require.

>

>> Actually, the only things I've seen that seemed remotely credible was:

>

>> 1.  When heated to excess, some types of nonstick coatings can release
>>      fumes that are toxic to birds.

>

>> 2.  If you don't use the nonstick pan like an idiot, you're in no
>> danger.

>

>> I'm really looking for a citation in the New England Journal of
>> Medicine,
>> the Lancet, or peer-reviewed toxicology journals.  Perhaps I'll see
>> what I can
>> find.  It seems to me that the burden of proof is on the person making
>> the
>> claims, however.

>

>> Cindy Hamilton

>
> I don't know if this is pertinent or not, but five years ago a
> co-worker, who works as a scientist in environmental engineering and
> science, shared with me an article from USA Today written by Elizabeth
> Weise, "Posted 4/23/2003 10:08 PM - Updated 4/24/2003 1:24 AM".  The
> title of the article is, "Out of the frying pan, into a fire."  I won't
> post/share the entire article here because that would be an infringement
> of copyright.  But for reference, here are a couple of paragraphs quoted
> from the article that may help, or perhaps not:
>
>      "Last week the Environmental Protection Agency announced concerns
> about a widely used chemical called perfluorinated acid. Tests in rats
> have shown reduced fetal weight of pups, delays in maturation and kidney
> problems - and 92%% of Americans tested had trace amounts of it in their
> blood. That's because so-called PFOA or its byproducts are used in the
> manufacturing process for Teflon and Gore-Tex and can be released as the
> original Scotchguard and Stainmaster break down. PFOA also has other
> industrial uses."

>      "This month a paper in the journal Current Biology reported that a
> commonly used plastic ingredient called bisphenol A caused abnormal
> pregnancies in mice and might cause reproductive problems in people.
> Last year a Swedish study found that a flame retardant used in TV sets,
> computer circuit boards and casings, foams and fabric called
> polybrominated diphenyl ether, or PBDE, is rapidly accumulating in human
> breast milk. The chemical is thought to cause thyroid cancer and
> possibly neurodevelopmental problems in test animals."

> Hope this helps you to find appropriate citations for particular studies
> and papers if you're so inclinded.
>
> Sky, who is no scientist and has no "environmental engineering and
> science" background <-----disclaimer!