On Mon 01 Sep 2008 01:30:12p, Evette told us...
>>
>> Hi,Wayne,
>>
>> I like the set I bought much better -- I'm not sure why, something 'je
>> ne sais quoi.'
>>
>> Perhaps it's the outer rim? I recall you mentioning to me when I
>> bought mine that the rim/lip on mine was nice, but I wasn't quite sure
>> how you knew that -- but I can tell you the rim for pouring on the set
>> I bought it absolutely perfect. I can pour warmed milk from a pan into
>> a small-rimmed jar with no problem.
>> As I recall looking at the ones they have now, I think the lip is
>> different, not as 'rolled.' When I've picked them up, and I do often
>> when I'm in there, I usually am glad that I had bought the ones I have
>> now.
>>
>> Another thing, whether this matters or not, but I had the impression
>> that they were not as 'heavy.' This can represent different things to
>> different people, of course, but as I have bought and looked at a few
>> ss pans since I've steered away from the previous non-stick
>> calphalon-type I had, I feel that perhaps they aren't as 'substantial,'
>> even though they ARE quite substantial. I'm not sure how else to say
>> it.
>>
>> I notice on Costco's site that they don't mention the 'country of
>> origin' or 'made in ...' Mine were made in Italy; of course, always my
>> choice if I can get it. (I've mentioned I also like 'made in Brazil.')
>> If you can get a local Costco warehouse number for your warehouse,
>> perhaps they will look at the bottom of the pan for you. I swear I
>> can't remember. but "Indonesia" is coming to mind.
>>
>> I guess one cannot trust looking at the box, but will have to look at
>> the pot itself, as to the 'country of origin.' I received from
>>
cooking.com a clay pot the other day that I KNEW was made in the U.S.
>> When I received it, it was defective (yep! the usual drats!) and when
>> I called and also asked them about the "made in Taiwan' on the box,
>> they assured me that it was made in the good ole U.S. of A, but that
>> evidently Taiwan have boxes made up that say that.
Cooking.com is
>> replacing the clay pot thankfully.
cooking.com always comes through for
>> me and always pleasant, I might add.
>>
>> Here are a few things to compare with what was written at the Costco
>> site re what I bought. Online, they were $229.99 incl S&H, but I paid
>> $199.99 at the store. I wonder at the price of the current ones at
>> $199 warehouse incl s&h, perhaps they might be closing them out? They
>> have been there some little time now. If that's the case, and you can
>> wait, then I'll bet there will be something new to replace it for
>> holiday time.
>>
>> Haven't they stopped selling Circulon (sp?) - lordy, I hated that
>> stuff, even though lots of people are nuts about it. Nope! I see it is
>> still there $149.99 for 12 piece set.
>>
>> My ss set was a 13 pc. set copper-bonded 5-ply base.
>> "... dome shaped lids fit precisely for heat and nutrient retention.
>> The snug fit creates a tight "seal" for a more efficient form of self
>> basting." This is really true! Flared edges for easy pouring. Mine
>> says as well as on your site, "induction ready."
>> I don't usually put any pans in the dishwasher, but I have put these in
>> a few times with no problems.
>>
>> Here are the pans included in the set I bought.
>> a.. 1.5 qt. Covered saucepan
>> b.. 2 qt. Covered saucepan with steamer insert
>> c.. 4 qt. Covered saucepan (lid fits 8.5" flared edge skillet)
>> d.. 8.5 qt. Covered stockpot (lid fits 10" flared edge skillet)
>> e.. 3.5 qt. Covered saut