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Author: SN
Date: Jun 12, 2008 21:53

so there is apparently some "well known" knowledge (in China or
Chinese traditional medicine) that sheng puerh/green puerh/wild puerh
leaf (maybe even green tea) contains some "poisons" or some natural
chemicals (self-produced by the tea plant) that may be harmful to
humans...
i'm somewhat skeptical, but i'm open to being informed...
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: niisonge
Date: Jun 13, 2008 00:59

> so there is apparently some "well known" knowledge (in China or
> Chinese traditional medicine) that sheng puerh/green puerh/wild puerh
> leaf (maybe even green tea) contains some "poisons" or some natural
> chemicals (self-produced by the tea plant) that may be harmful to
> humans...

Where have you seen this information?

现代医学对茶的功效研究已有近20项:即暖胃、减肥、降脂、防止动脉硬化、防止冠心病、降血压、抗衰老、抗癌、降血糖、抑菌消炎、减轻烟毒、减轻重金属
毒、抗辐射、防龋齿、明目、助消化、抗毒、预防便秘、解酒等。其中普洱茶的 暖胃、 减肥、降脂、防止动脉硬化、防止冠心病、降血压、抗衰老、抗癌、降
血糖 尤为突出。
According to this, tea, and puer in general is supposed to detoxify.

The only thing I have seen where puer is said to have poison - is just
in a loose phrasing of the word. Because it can cause addiction, so in
some respects, it can be considered poison, like a drug. Of course,
that's really overstating it.
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: toci
Date: Jun 13, 2008 03:13

On Jun 13, 2:59 am, niisonge yahoo.com> wrote:
>> so there is apparently some "well known" knowledge (in China or
>> Chinese traditional medicine) that sheng puerh/green puerh/wild puerh
>> leaf (maybe even green tea) contains some "poisons" or some natural
>> chemicals (self-produced by the tea plant) that may be harmful to
>> humans...
>
> Where have you seen this information?
>
> 现代医学对茶的功效研究已有近20项:即暖胃、减肥、降脂、防止动脉硬化、防止冠心病、降血压、抗衰老、抗癌、降血糖、抑菌消炎、减轻烟毒、减轻重金属
> 毒、抗辐射、防龋齿、明目、助消化、抗毒、预防便秘、解酒等。其中普洱茶的 暖胃、 减肥、降脂、防止动脉硬化、防止冠心病、降血压、抗衰老、抗癌、降
> 血糖 尤为突出。
> According to this, tea, and puer in general is supposed to detoxify.
>
> The only thing I have seen where puer is said to have poison - is just
> in a loose phrasing of the word. Because it can cause addiction, so in
> some respects, it can be considered poison, like a drug. Of course,
> that's really overstating it.
>
> Of course, Chinese have a different viewpoint from that of Westerners, ...
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: niisonge
Date: Jun 13, 2008 05:19

> Not too weird and complicated.

Well, it is weird - because what we would consider perfectly good food
in the West - here in China, lots of people avoid it like the plague,
as if it will poison their bodies. Not only that, whenever something
goes wrong with their body, they will say, "too hot". And basically
blame it on eating foods that were too "hot".

Everything is weird in China. They even practice head-shapening or
head-flattening of newborn babies.
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Jun 13, 2008 06:15

niisonge yahoo.com> writes:
>> Not too weird and complicated.
>
> Well, it is weird - because what we would consider perfectly good food
> in the West - here in China, lots of people avoid it like the plague,
> as if it will poison their bodies. Not only that, whenever something
> goes wrong with their body, they will say, "too hot". And basically
> blame it on eating foods that were too "hot".
>
> Everything is weird in China. They even practice head-shapening or
> head-flattening of newborn babies.

Not only that - they drink ... tea!

/Lew
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: SN
Date: Jun 13, 2008 06:56

Lewis Perin panix.com> wrote:
>
> Not only that - they drink ... tea!

strangeness

yeah so it seems i misunderstood the 'hazards' ...it was a reference
to the hot/cold concepts indeed...
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: niisonge
Date: Jun 13, 2008 07:25

> strangeness

What's even more strange is they have candy in the supermarkets -
individually wrapped in foil wrappers - but... it's actually meat!!!
Candy shouldn't be meat, it should be candy!!! Right? I ate it a few
times; certainly doesn't taste like candy. It tastes like meat! Kind
of makes me sorry for all the kids that think candy is made from meat,
hahaha. So remember, when coming to China and offered candy, be sure
to check that it's what we think of as candy. I always decline when
someone offers me meat candy, but I always end up stuck with a handful
anyway. Darn it.
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: SN
Date: Jun 13, 2008 07:30

On Jun 13, 10:25 am, niisonge yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> What's even more strange is they have candy in the supermarkets -
> individually wrapped in foil wrappers - but... it's actually meat!!!

what !

you mean like a preserved meat? ... beef jerky type stuff?
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: Iggy
Date: Jun 13, 2008 13:13

On Jun 13, 7:30 am, SN gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:25 am, niisonge yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> What's even more strange is they have candy in the supermarkets -
>> individually wrapped in foil wrappers - but... it's actually meat!!!
>
> what !
>
> you mean like a preserved meat? ... beef jerky type stuff?

You bet! My kids love what they call "tuna treats"
-- brightly-
colored foil-wrapped "candy" dried tuna cubes. They offer them to
their friends to see their reaction. Fruit-flavored candy beef (or
tofu) jerky is also a popular treat for them.
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Re: tea leaf protection mechanism chemicals that may affect humans?         


Author: niisonge
Date: Jun 13, 2008 19:08

> you mean like a preserved meat? ... beef jerky type stuff?
Yeah, preserved meat - like beef jerky - except I think it's pork they
put into those. They come in little retangular squares that look like
candy, and wrapped just like candy. And they're called "candy".

And what's even more weird in China - Lipton tea is actually pretty
good here! They sell packages that contain packets of individual
servings of powdered tea - to which you just add water and stir (or
shake). They got "Lipton Maccha Milk Tea" that's really good. It
tastes just like the stuff I could make myself.
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