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Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Mydnight
Date: Nov 26, 2007 06:40

Vendors still insist the greens and lightly roasted (qing xiang)
wulongs benefit in freshness from keeping them in the freezer. They
use allusions to fresh green vegetables as an example but I'm
wondering how much of this is actually beneficial. They also claim
that special types of freezers are required to maintain proper storage
of these teas at a certain temperature.

It seems to me the only benefit for keeping wulongs like tie guan yin
in the fridge is that it will help to amplify the astrigency of the
tea. This seems especially so for spring teas that are naturally more
astrigent.

Do ya'll have any experiences with putting your teas in the freezer?
I sorta think that it makes the chemical flavorings more poignant.

As an aside, there are no freezers "only for tea".
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Dominic T.
Date: Nov 26, 2007 07:19

On Nov 26, 9:40 am, Mydnight hotmail.com> wrote:
> Vendors still insist the greens and lightly roasted (qing xiang)
> wulongs benefit in freshness from keeping them in the freezer. They
> use allusions to fresh green vegetables as an example but I'm
> wondering how much of this is actually beneficial. They also claim
> that special types of freezers are required to maintain proper storage
> of these teas at a certain temperature.
>
> It seems to me the only benefit for keeping wulongs like tie guan yin
> in the fridge is that it will help to amplify the astrigency of the
> tea. This seems especially so for spring teas that are naturally more
> astrigent.
>
> Do ya'll have any experiences with putting your teas in the freezer?
> I sorta think that it makes the chemical flavorings...
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: niisonge
Date: Nov 26, 2007 14:46

> Do ya'll have any experiences with putting your teas in the freezer?
Sure, in Fujian, tea won't last past 3 months if not stored in the
freezer. This is especially true during the hottest months. It gets
quite hot and humid in southern China, and these light kinds of teas
go bad fast. That's why everything has to be vacuum sealed,
individually wrapped, and stored in a freezer to keep the tea fresh.
Now that's in southern China, where temperature and humidity play a
factor.
There, it's great for storing sheng puer, but not for some qingxiang
type wulong teas.
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Mydnight
Date: Nov 26, 2007 22:28

> Sure, in Fujian, tea won't last past 3 months if not stored in the
> freezer. This is especially true during the hottest months. It gets
> quite hot and humid in southern China, and these light kinds of teas
> go bad fast. That's why everything has to be vacuum sealed,
> individually wrapped, and stored in a freezer to keep the tea fresh.
> Now that's in southern China, where temperature and humidity play a
> factor.
> There, it's great for storing sheng puer, but not for some qingxiang
> type wulong teas.

I'm going to have to go with Dominic on this one. I have never seen
sheng pu'er put in a freezer before and it's almost exclusively light
roast Tie Guan Yin from Anxi or some types of green teas. I live in
Southern China; in the humidity and the heat. The vacuum sealing I
understand, but popping your best TGY into the freezer? Putting sheng
pu'er in the freezer would be sorta pointless wouldn't it? It's
usually hoped the tea will age in the heavy humidity of Southern
China; that's why most storage is done here and not in Yunnan where
it's more dry.
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Nigel
Date: Nov 27, 2007 04:28

On Nov 27, 6:28 am, Mydnight hotmail.com> wrote:
> Other times I've seen freezers that weren't cold enough that caused
> condensation to form inside and on the bags.

If the condensation was frozen within the bag then the tea was too
moist rather than the freezer not cold enough - if the condensation
was liquid then the freezer was above zero C - refrigerator not
freezer. If you can see through the bags then they are no good for
storing tea in a freezer - they will let in taints, let out aroma, and
cannot be properly sealed. Moisture will inevitably get through
polythene or nylon bags knotted or zip locked or through pinholes.
> I guess the freezer would have to be really cold.

Yes, minus 18 deg C is necessary and no fluctuations
> I bought a small freezer once for tea storage as well and no matter
what kind of
> setting I used with it, I think the tea was always left with a freon-
> freezer burned taste.
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: niisonge
Date: Nov 27, 2007 06:02

>Putting sheng pu'er in the freezer would be sorta pointless wouldn't it?

I wasn't saying put sheng puer into the freezer. I was saying the
climate in southern China is amenable to sheng puer storage; while on
the other hand, light roast or lightly fermented wulong teas like...
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Dominic T.
Date: Nov 27, 2007 06:02

On Nov 27, 7:28 am, Nigel teacraft.com> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 6:28 am, Mydnight hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Other times I've seen freezers that weren't cold enough that caused
>> condensation to form inside and on the bags.
>
> If the condensation was frozen within the bag then the tea was too
> moist rather than the freezer not cold enough - if the condensation
> was liquid then the freezer was above zero C - refrigerator not
> freezer. If you can see through the bags then they are no good for
> storing tea in a freezer - they will let in taints, let out aroma, and
> cannot be properly sealed. Moisture will inevitably get through
> polythene or nylon bags knotted or zip locked or through pinholes.
>
>> I guess the freezer would have to be really cold.
>
> Yes, minus 18 deg C is necessary and no fluctuations
>
>> I bought a small freezer once for tea storage as well and no matter
> what kind of ...
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Alex
Date: Nov 27, 2007 07:06

On Nov 26, 5:46 pm, niisonge yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Do ya'll have any experiences with putting your teas in the freezer?
>
> Sure, in Fujian, tea won't last past 3 months if not stored in the
> freezer. This is especially true during the hottest months. It gets
> quite hot and humid in southern China, and these light kinds of teas
> go bad fast. That's why everything has to be vacuum sealed,
> individually wrapped, and stored in a freezer to keep the tea fresh.
> Now that's in southern China, where temperature and humidity play a
> factor.
> There, it's great for storing sheng puer, but not for some qingxiang
> type wulong teas.
>
> Flying on a plane over to Toronto, Canada, and onto the Great Lakes,
> the climate is much different that that of southern China. Not humid
> as in China. And not as hot. I've had some of these lighter type
> oolongs stored away for years now. And coming back to Canada, I
> thought for darn sure, they would have changed dramatically to become
> "old tea". Anyway, since I was jet lagged, I brewed some up one night
> at home - and I was astonished at the taste and flavor. It was not a ...
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Jazzy
Date: Nov 27, 2007 09:36

i keep my long jing green tea in the freezer with few layers on
plastic wrapping it. stay fresh all year long :)
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Re: Tea in the freezer.         


Author: Mydnight
Date: Nov 28, 2007 01:17

> Yes, minus 18 deg C is necessary and no fluctuations

Then by your definition, I know NO places in China, I've seen, that
have a true freezer to store tea. I would guess most of the places
around in Guangdong use refrigerators. I've even seen open faced
fridge units used for storing drinks in a supermarket used for storing
cold drinks. Also, I've seen smaller units used for storing ice
cream. This was in Fangcun, mind you; not some local slop-shop.
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