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Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Jun 29, 2008 08:19

Who knew that the first modern commercial computer was developed by
the Lyons tea shops? Note well, it was developed not just *for*
Lyons, but *by* them:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/technology/29caminer.html?ref=todayspaper

/Lew
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Re: Tea and computers         


Author: Dominic T.
Date: Jun 29, 2008 11:01

On Jun 29, 11:19 am, Lewis Perin panix.com> wrote:
> Who knew that the first modern commercial computer was developed by
> the Lyons tea shops? Note well, it was developed not just *for*
> Lyons, but *by* them:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/technology/29caminer.html?ref=today...
>
> /Lew
> ---
> Lew Perin / pe...@acm.orghttp://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

Huh... I never knew that. I'm a computer guy (and have been for 14+
years) and always thought I was pretty well-versed on early computer
history/trivia. Learn something new every day.
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Re: Tea and computers         


Date: Jun 29, 2008 15:00

In message panix1.panix.com>, Lewis Perin
panix.com> writes
>Who knew that the first modern commercial computer was developed by
>the Lyons tea shops? Note well, it was developed not just *for*
>Lyons, but *by* them:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/technology/29caminer.html?ref=todayspaper
>
>/Lew
>---
>Lew Perin / perin@acm.org
>http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html
Well I did for one.

Lyons were certainly a prime mover and the first to implement a
commercial computer system but they didn't develop the actual machine
themselves.

LEO 3 was also used by Dept of National Savings.

I can recall in the late 60s/early 70s they decided to order more LEOs
rather than update to ICL System 4.
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Re: Tea and computers         


Author: benoitb
Date: Jun 30, 2008 23:15

On 29 juin, 20:01, "Dominic T." gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
> I'm always amazed at the strong link between tea drinkers and
> computers/science.
> [...]
> - Dominic

I'm used to drink tea on a daily basis, including at work. As I often
forgot the tea in the tea pot, and as I am a computer guy to, I was
looking for a way to avoid too much bitter tea cups ...

So, I wrote a very small and simple Firefox (which I use very often
when working) Extension to warns me when my tea is ready. I would
really appreciate if some connoisseurs can tell me what they think
about this extension, and if they have some advices to improve it
slightly.

If you are kind enough to do that, you can find it here :
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/7472
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Re: Tea and computers         


Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Jul 1, 2008 06:47

benoitb gmail.com> writes:
> On 29 juin, 20:01, "Dominic T." gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> So, I wrote a very small and simple Firefox (which I use very often
> when working) Extension to warns me when my tea is ready. I would
> really appreciate if some connoisseurs can tell me what they think
> about this extension, and if they have some advices to improve it
> slightly.
>
> If you are kind enough to do that, you can find it here :
> https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/7472
>
> Thanks in advance for any feedback.

It looks nice, but I would have trouble with the steep times, which
for my purposes are long and, what's worse, fixed.

Disclosure: I use a tiny program I wrote myself that beeps a number of
seconds after it's started; the number of seconds gets typed on the
Windows command line. It's kind of stark, but it gets the job done
for me.
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Author: benoitb
Date: Jul 1, 2008 07:40

On 1 juil, 15:47, Lewis Perin panix.com> wrote:
>
> It looks nice, but I would have trouble with the steep times, which
> for my purposes are long and, what's worse, fixed.

Do you mean that :
1. the steep times are way too long, but I don't know where to find a
list of common durations. Have you noticed the option "tonic" that cut
off the times ? Do you think it may be useful ?
2. you would prefer to be able to provide your own prefered steep
times for each variety of tea ?

--
BBa
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Re: Tea and computers         


Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Jul 1, 2008 08:57

benoitb gmail.com> writes:
> On 1 juil, 15:47, Lewis Perin panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> It looks nice, but I would have trouble with the steep times, which
>> for my purposes are long and, what's worse, fixed.
>
> Do you mean that :
> 1. the steep times are way too long, but I don't know where to find a
> list of common durations.

Yes, they're too long for me. But there are other people for whom
they aren't too long, I'm sure.
> Have you noticed the option "tonic" that cut off the times ? Do you
> think it may be useful ?

I noticed it in the screen shot in the documentation, but I don't
understand its purpose. I confess I haven't installed the plugin;
I've only looked over the documentation.
> 2. you would prefer to be able to provide your own prefered steep
> times for each variety of tea ?
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Author: chappell
Date: Jul 1, 2008 13:46

I used to use a one-liner which beeped (Unix operating system, in
my .cshrc):

alias tea2 'sleep 120; echo ^G; sleep 2; echo ^G; sleep 2; echo ^G'

and so on for tea2, tea3, tea4, and tea5 (I don't steep longer than 5
minutes,
or if I do I don't bother timing it).

But then I would keep e-mailing, etc., despite the alarm and my tea
would
get stewed. A catastrophe. So I wrote a new one:

alias t2 'sleep 120; mpg123 ~/News/mp3s/SUNARAC.mp3'

where SUNARAC.mp3 is the Red Army Chorus singing the Soviet
(I think, perhaps Russian; the tunes are the same) national anthem.
Works like a charm.

Best,

Rick.
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Re: Tea and computers         


Author: Rainy
Date: Jul 1, 2008 14:45

On Jul 1, 4:46 pm, chapp...@biostat.wisc.edu wrote:
> I used to use a one-liner which beeped (Unix operating system, in
> my .cshrc):
>
> alias tea2 'sleep 120; echo ^G; sleep 2; echo ^G; sleep 2; echo ^G'
>
> and so on for tea2, tea3, tea4, and tea5 (I don't steep longer than 5
> minutes,
> or if I do I don't bother timing it).
>
> But then I would keep e-mailing, etc., despite the alarm and my tea
> would
> get stewed.  A catastrophe.  So I wrote a new one:
>
> alias t2 'sleep 120; mpg123   ~/News/mp3s/SUNARAC.mp3'
>
> where SUNARAC.mp3 is the Red Army Chorus singing the Soviet
> (I think, perhaps Russian; the tunes are the same) national anthem.
> Works like a charm.
> ...
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Re: Tea and computers         


Author: teapandya
Date: Jul 2, 2008 22:12

On Jul 2, 2:45 am, Rainy gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 1, 4:46 pm, chapp...@biostat.wisc.edu wrote:
>
>
>
>> I used to use a one-liner which beeped (Unix operating system, in
>> my .cshrc):
>
>> alias tea2 'sleep 120; echo ^G; sleep 2; echo ^G; sleep 2; echo ^G'
>
>> and so on for tea2, tea3, tea4, and tea5 (I don't steep longer than 5
>> minutes,
>> or if I do I don't bother timing it).
>
>> But then I would keep e-mailing, etc., despite the alarm and my tea
>> would
>> get stewed. A catastrophe. So I wrote a new one:
>
>> alias t2 'sleep 120; mpg123 ~/News/mp3s/SUNARAC.mp3'
> ...
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