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Non-enameled Tetsubin         


Author: Phyll
Date: Dec 23, 2006 14:07

Does anybody know where one can purchase a non-enameled tetsubin for
strictly boiling water? Thanks.

Phyll
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Re: Non-enameled Tetsubin         


Author: MarshalN
Date: Dec 24, 2006 02:36

Phyll wrote:
> Does anybody know where one can purchase a non-enameled tetsubin for
> strictly boiling water? Thanks.
>
> Phyll

Wouldn't the esteemed M. Erler be able to provide it, just like
everything else he talks about on his blog?

MarshalN
http://www.xanga.com/MarshalN
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Re: Non-enameled Tetsubin         


Author: Tea Masters Blog
Date: Dec 26, 2006 00:10

MarshalN wrote:
> The question is -- is there a good reason to use one?

Thank you so much for your very kind words and reference! I kind of
answered your question here:
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/2006/09/my-iron-tetsubin.html

In summary, the iron cast pot keeps the heat longer, and since
non-enameled tetsubin are porous, the water also remains 'fresher',
with the iron adding a nice sweet taste that improves the quality of
most teas. And last, for me, it also looks great and fits my tea set
better than a shiny stainless steel kettle.

This one, by the way, is the one to which I 'upgraded' this Christmas:
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/2006/10/dragon-tetsubin.html

Best would be to try out for yourself and see the difference and see
why so many tea fans in Japan and Taiwan use one.

St
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Re: Non-enameled Tetsubin         


Author: Tea Masters Blog
Date: Dec 26, 2006 02:52

Michael Plant wrote:
> Now, how do I heat the thing? On the
> stove, in it's own little brazier (sp?)?

Tetsubin are more fragile than they appear. Avoid heating the tetsubin
over a single flame (like from an oil lamp). Best would be over a
brazier, but it's also possible over a gas stove or an induction plate
at a low/medium strength.

Good luck!

St
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Re: Non-enameled Tetsubin         


Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Dec 26, 2006 09:09

"Tea Masters Blog" yahoo.com> writes:
> MarshalN wrote:
>> The question is -- is there a good reason to use one?
>
> [...]
>
> In summary, the iron cast pot keeps the heat longer, and since
> non-enameled tetsubin are porous, the water also remains 'fresher',
> with the iron adding a nice sweet taste that improves the quality of
> most teas.

I wonder how much iron actually enters the water heated by an unglazed
tetsubin. The reason I ask is that, beyond a certain point, dissolved
iron can ruin tea's taste and texture with a scummy film.

/Lew
---
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http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html
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Re: Non-enameled Tetsubin         


Author: Phyll
Date: Dec 26, 2006 13:57

Maybe the iron from the tetsubins is good for the taste of green teas
only?

Michael Plant wrote:
>I know that the tetsubin is an intrinsic part of the Japanese
>tea ceremony, but the ceremony deploys matcha, which is
>generally inferior to leaf tea, even at its best;

While I know nothing about matcha prep and enjoyment, I have heard that
the very best of matcha used by the Ura Senke and Omote Senke is
prepared meticulously. Those who know their matcha would likely
dissent your statement. As far as I've been told, the fundamental
differences of top notch matcha from loose leaf tea are:

- The stems and veins of the tea leaves are all removed. Only the
softest, fleshy part of the plant is used for authentic matcha
production. This is a very time consuming step.

- The tea leaves have to be ground into a fine powder using granite
wheels, at a very slow pace. Only 1 oz of product is made with over 1
hour of grinding. Any faster, and the friction will "cook" the tea
and kill its nutritional properties.

At this quality level, it can cost USD $2,500/lb.
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Re: Non-enameled Tetsubin         


Author: Phyll
Date: Dec 26, 2006 14:16

MarshalN wrote:
> The question is -- is there a good reason to use one?

I'm still trying weighing this question. The ensuing discussion is
helpful.

MarshalN wrote:
> Phyll wrote:
>> Yep, Stephane sent me an email with the non-enameled Tetsubin
>> selections. He clarified to me that he does *not* have them in his
>> inventory per se, but instead he's able to get the Tetsubins from an
>> importer.
>>
>
> The question is -- is there a good reason to use one?
>
> MarshalN
> http://www.xanga.com/MarshalN
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Re: Matcha Madness [was:Non-enameled Tetsubin]         


Author: Space Cowboy
Date: Dec 27, 2006 08:50

I recently bought some green tea powder to compare in consistency to
commercial matcha. They both are powders. I would say the grinding
produces a lighter hue than darker because either is brighter than any
leaf I have. The powder stays suspended making a soup if you don't
use too much. In a way, nothing goes to waste. Even if you use too
much you will get a lighter taste than say Turkish coffee. From an
earlier discussion the Chinese initially made the tea leaf into a
powder and hence the more recognizable Japanese terms koicha and usucha
for thick and thin. At some point the Chinese started brewing the leaf
but the Japanese turned it into a ceremonial requirement. One of these
days I might grind some leaf with a mortar and pestle and see if it
affects taste.
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Re: Matcha Madness [was:Non-enameled Tetsubin]         


Author: Tea Masters Blog
Date: Dec 27, 2006 08:50

Michael Plant wrote:
When this thread
> dies down, I'll most likely go out, get some moderately
> high quality matcha, and have at it in a tea bowl. I've
> got a couple teabowls tucked away perhaps worthy of
> the experiment.

Good luck with your experiment. But make several ones. Whisking matcha
well makes a great difference on the result of your tea. The water must
be hot enough and you must whisk continuously so to achieve a thick
layer of fine bubbles and no deposit on the bottom. The foam will be
thickest where you take the bamboo whisk away, creating like a little
island.

Stephane
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Re: Matcha Madness [was:Non-enameled Tetsubin]         


Author: Phyll
Date: Dec 27, 2006 09:27

Hi Michael,

All in the spirit of learning and sharing of info... :)

Aiya Corp, as far as I know, is the largest grower/manfacturer/supplier
of green matcha in the world.

Here is the source of my information through my blog discussion with
Brian Takeda:

http://www.tching.com/index.php/2006/11/22/review-matcha-in-europe/

This is his bio...he's the regional director in Canada.

http://www.tching.com/?author=44#posts

Regards,

~ Phyll

Michael Plant wrote:
> Hi Phyll,
>
> Your points are well taken, the information you
> provide is genuinely interesting, and I present
> here and presented previously nothing but my
> opinions. My fault...
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