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Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: aloninna
Date: Aug 29, 2006 13:38

I've just sampled a beautiful batch of Guangxi Ling Yun Bai Hao "White
Downy" tea. Highly aromatic and a very sweet taste. Some sources on the
net refer to this tea as a "green tea" whilst others mention it as a
"white tea". HELP, I'm puzzled.
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Space Cowboy
Date: Aug 30, 2006 05:43

It's a white tea from the name Bai Hao. It is also a YinZhen but they
use Ling Yun to identify the county in Guangxi. The links I saw talked
about a green infusion which is typical. I've seen arguments white tea
is from a particular plant in Fujian.

Jim

aloninna wrote:
> I've just sampled a beautiful batch of Guangxi Ling Yun Bai Hao "White
> Downy" tea. Highly aromatic and a very sweet taste. Some sources on the
> net refer to this tea as a "green tea" whilst others mention it as a
> "white tea". HELP, I'm puzzled.
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Aug 30, 2006 07:39

"Space Cowboy" ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
> aloninna wrote:
>> I've just sampled a beautiful batch of Guangxi Ling Yun Bai Hao "White
>> Downy" tea. Highly aromatic and a very sweet taste. Some sources on the
>> net refer to this tea as a "green tea" whilst others mention it as a
>> "white tea". HELP, I'm puzzled.
>
> It's a white tea from the name Bai Hao.

Sorry, that doesn't follow. Bai Hao is a term that's used for lots of
different Chinese teas, including the heavily oxidized oolong also
known as Oriental Beauty.

/Lew
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Space Cowboy
Date: Aug 30, 2006 11:13

Technically you are right. BaiHao is used incorrectly where BaiYe is
nornally used for oolongs with a smattering of white tip or leaf.

Jim
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Aug 30, 2006 14:18

"Space Cowboy" ix.netcom.com> writes:
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: aloninna
Date: Aug 30, 2006 20:14

>> Lewis Perin wrote:
> Sorry, but Bai Hao has so little meaning that saying it's used
> incorrectly seems quixotic. There are also Bai Haos that are green
> (scented and unscented), white, and red/black teas.

So we're back to square one: the Guangxi Bai Hao could be either green
or white, unless someone can point out the exact processing method.
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Space Cowboy
Date: Aug 31, 2006 05:41

The only oolong I know that uses BaiHao is Oriental Beauty. You will
see BaiYe and BaiMao to describe teas with white tips. Kuri in an
earlier post said she was told by a Taiwan shop keeper to use BaiYe
because the Hao character is rare in Japanese. Maybe Mydnight can
mention if BaiHao is used synonymously with white teas or just a
generic term to mean white tip that can be present in white,green,red
levels of oxidation.

Jim

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>> Jim
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>> Lewis Perin wrote:
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Space Cowboy
Date: Aug 31, 2006 05:48

No. Guangxi Ling Yun is also referred to as Yinzhen or silver needles
which makes it a white tea. Some people might takes exception Yinzhen
only applies to white tea from Fujian ie besides little or no oxidation
it applies to a particular cultivar.

Jim

aloninna wrote:
>>> Lewis Perin wrote:
>
>> Sorry, but Bai Hao has so little meaning that saying it's used
>> incorrectly seems quixotic. There are also Bai Haos that are green
>> (scented and unscented), white, and red/black teas.
>
> So we're back to square one: the Guangxi Bai Hao could be either green
> or white, unless someone can point out the exact processing method.
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Lewis Perin
Date: Aug 31, 2006 08:02

"aloninna" gmail.com> writes:
>>> Lewis Perin wrote:
>
>> Sorry, but Bai Hao has so little meaning that saying it's used
>> incorrectly seems quixotic. There are also Bai Haos that are green
>> (scented and unscented), white, and red/black teas.
>
> So we're back to square one: the Guangxi Bai Hao could be either green
> or white, unless someone can point out the exact processing method.

I would reserve judgment on this, until someone can find some
testimony on how the Lingyun tea is actually made. You could tell
something from visual inspection of the dry leaves, but sometimes a
real white tea looks a lot like a stale green tea!

/Lew
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Re: Guangxi White Downy: white or green?         


Author: Space Cowboy
Date: Aug 31, 2006 09:29

More correctly would be YinHao to mean silver tips to make puer. Also
it is used for green teas with little oxidation. For many years I
thought it meant a superior version of Jasmine but it relates to the
style of the leaf and not the taste perse which is the only Jasmine
quality I can stand. I throw out the Bai and Yin terms as I understand
them from my purchases and research heretofore.

Jim

PS I buy regularly from Chinatown something called spring bud. It
looks like the same level of oxidation as my yummy Yunnan YinHao. Also
puer often uses Ya(Bud) in the place of Hao(Tip).

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>> Jim
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