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Author: SNSN Date: Oct 26, 2007 05:38
been enjoying the green oolongs (nugget-style) for a while
most have a certain flowery-ness to them
i think its pretty much the same flavor of flower
ive encountered so far
can someone relate this flowery flavor to a specific flower/plant?
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Author: NigelNigel Date: Oct 26, 2007 08:34
On Oct 26, 1:38 pm, SN gmail.com> wrote:
> been enjoying the green oolongs (nugget-style) for a while
> most have a certain flowery-ness to them
> i think its pretty much the same flavor of flower
> ive encountered so far
> can someone relate this flowery flavor to a specific flower/plant?
>
Just a few of the flowery volatiles found in oolong tea include
Geraniol (rose petal), Linalool (light floral, lily of the valley),
Terpineol (lilac), Nerolidol (rose), Phenylethanol (light floral),
Methoxybenzaldehyde (vanilla), Z-jasmone & Jasmine lactone (jasmine),
B-ionone (violets), Hexanoic(s) (geranium/flowery/fruity), Oolongs
have fewer of the flowery volatile compounds compared with black teas
- but they tend to be the heavier aroma compounds and at higher
concentrations (blacks have wider spread of compounds but less
(proportionally) of the heavy ones - thus Gardenias are sometime used
to spike poor oolongs but this would not work with poor blacks -
blacks can be spiked with lemon zest and wintergreen but this would
not work with oolongs. Variations in tea volatile aroma (place to
place, season, variety) tend to be due changes in concentration ratios ...
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Author: SNSN Date: Oct 26, 2007 08:48
On Oct 26, 11:34 am, Nigel teacraft.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 1:38 pm, SN gmail.com> wrote:> been enjoying the green oolongs (nugget-style) for a while
>> most have a certain flowery-ness to them
>> i think its pretty much the same flavor of flower
>> ive encountered so far
>> can someone relate this flowery flavor to a specific flower/plant?
>
> Just a few of the flowery volatiles found in oolong tea include
> Geraniol (rose petal), Linalool (light floral, lily of the valley),
> Terpineol (lilac), Nerolidol (rose), Phenylethanol (light floral),
> Methoxybenzaldehyde (vanilla), Z-jasmone & Jasmine lactone (jasmine),
> B-ionone (violets), Hexanoic(s) (geranium/flowery/fruity), Oolongs
> have fewer of the flowery volatile compounds compared with black teas
> - but they tend to be the heavier aroma compounds and at higher
> concentrations (blacks have wider spread of compounds but less
> (proportionally) of the heavy ones - thus Gardenias are sometime used
> to spike poor oolongs but this would not work with poor blacks -
> blacks can be spiked with lemon zest and wintergreen but this would
> not work with oolongs. Variations in tea volatile aroma (place to
> place, season, variety) tend to be due changes in concentration ratios ...
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Author: Dominic T.Dominic T. Date: Oct 26, 2007 10:30
On Oct 26, 11:34 am, Nigel teacraft.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 1:38 pm, SN gmail.com> wrote:> been enjoying the green oolongs (nugget-style) for a while
>> most have a certain flowery-ness to them
>> i think its pretty much the same flavor of flower
>> ive encountered so far
>> can someone relate this flowery flavor to a specific flower/plant?
>
> Just a few of the flowery volatiles found in oolong tea include
> Geraniol (rose petal), Linalool (light floral, lily of the valley),
> Terpineol (lilac), Nerolidol (rose), Phenylethanol (light floral),
> Methoxybenzaldehyde (vanilla), Z-jasmone & Jasmine lactone (jasmine),
> B-ionone (violets), Hexanoic(s) (geranium/flowery/fruity), Oolongs
> have fewer of the flowery volatile compounds compared with black teas
> - but they tend to be the heavier aroma compounds and at higher
> concentrations (blacks have wider spread of compounds but less
> (proportionally) of the heavy ones - thus Gardenias are sometime used
> to spike poor oolongs but this would not work with poor blacks -
> blacks can be spiked with lemon zest and wintergreen but this would
> not work with oolongs. Variations in tea volatile aroma (place to
> place, season, variety) tend to be due changes in concentration ratios ...
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Author: NigelNigel Date: Oct 27, 2007 01:40
On Oct 26, 4:48 pm, SN gmail.com> wrote:
> :) Thank you very much, i always enjoy your Tea science answers
> i went ahead and googled based on your words "volatiles found in tea"
> and got some material to read :)
> do you think this page contains good info:http://preview.tinyurl.com/2z7d9o
Yes, the Chinese company FML has a good site with good basic tea
chemistry data thoughtfully culled from the literature, and allowing
for translation into English, having far less than the average
mistakes...
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Author: juliantaijuliantai Date: Oct 27, 2007 02:30
On Oct 27, 9:40 am, Nigel teacraft.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 4:48 pm, SN gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> :) Thank you very much, i always enjoy your Tea science answers
>> i went ahead and googled based on your words "volatiles found in tea"
>> and got some material to read :)
>> do you think this page contains good info:http://preview.tinyurl.com/2z7d9o
>
> Yes, the Chinese company FML has a good site with good basic tea
> chemistry data thoughtfully culled from the literature, and allowing
> for translation into English, having far less than the average
> mistakes and misconceptions. FML are an interesting and innovative
> tea company too. They have imported Japanese green tea equipment and
> make both by the traditional Chinese methods and by the computer
> controlled Japanese methods. FML have pioneered "Fujian new craft
> white tea" which is a way of increasing the capacity for production of
> "white tea" that does not require such tender tips - they now produce
> 400 tonnes a year (you wondered where all that white tea came from
> that goes into teabags and RTDs?). FML work with their customers too
> to develop unique own label tea products. Interesting that forward ...
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Author: JennJenn Date: Oct 29, 2007 12:59
Dominic, I guess one mans distaste can be my cravings... I love those
flowery oolongs, even tho I do not like jasmines or the other teas
that have flowers in them.
Nigel,
How often do you find oolongs spiked with real flowers and not natural
of the tea process? Are Taiwanese oolongs spiked?
As usual your knowledge is very informative and useful for me..
Thanks
Jenn
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