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Author: Jenn
Date: Apr 7, 2008 12:12

Many notes have been written about the caffeine levels in different
brews but I would like to ask if the good stuff in tea remains in
subsequent brews? I was just thinking that I had brewed a very nice
little cup of Gyokuro last night and then to sleep. This am saw the
little gaiwan with the pretty green leaves and and rebrewed it. It was
mighty fine in taste. I was wondering if all the good poly..
catche..etc things are still there in the brew?
Jenn
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Re: good stuff in tea         


Author: Thitherflit
Date: Apr 8, 2008 05:02

On Apr 7, 3:12 pm, Jenn hotmail.com> wrote:
> Many notes have been written about the caffeine levels in different
> brews but I would like to ask if the good stuff in tea remains in
> subsequent brews? I was just thinking that I had brewed a very nice
> little cup of Gyokuro last night and then to sleep. This am saw the
> little gaiwan with the pretty green leaves and and rebrewed it. It was
> mighty fine in taste. I was wondering if all the good poly..
> catche..etc things are still there in the brew?
> Jenn

There is a tradition in Japan to never drink tea from leaves left over
from the day before. When you ask people why, they say that in the
Edo period (roughly 1600 to 1868), the last "meal" of a condemned
criminal was a cup of tea made from leaves that were left from the day
before! They admit that at night they'll make tea from leaves used
early in the morning, but not stuff that has been waiting
*overnight*. I've met *many* people with this aversion.
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Re: good stuff in tea         


Author: Shen
Date: Apr 8, 2008 07:30

On Apr 7, 12:12 pm, Jenn hotmail.com> wrote:
> Many notes have been written about the caffeine levels in different
> brews but I would like to ask if the good stuff in tea remains in
> subsequent brews? I was just thinking that I had brewed a very nice
> little cup of Gyokuro last night and then to sleep. This am saw the
> little gaiwan with the pretty green leaves and and rebrewed it. It was
> mighty fine in taste. I was wondering if all the good poly..
> catche..etc things are still there in the brew?
> Jenn

Yes. The good stuff is there plus more mold from airborne mold and
fermentation.
Shen
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Author: Kevo
Date: Apr 8, 2008 08:16

On Apr 8, 3:12 am, Jenn hotmail.com> wrote:
> Many notes have been written about the caffeine levels in different
> brews but I would like to ask if the good stuff in tea remains in
> subsequent brews? I was just thinking that I had brewed a very nice
> little cup of Gyokuro last night and then to sleep. This am saw the
> little gaiwan with the pretty green leaves and and rebrewed it. It was
> mighty fine in taste. I was wondering if all the good poly..
> catche..etc things are still there in the brew?
> Jenn

According 2 a professor Herve Huang, an environmental cancer
researcher, a tea that is brewed 3 times would have about 90%% of its
beneficial contents leeched out. If you brew it only once, we might
assume that only 30%% is leeched out, with 70%% more in the leaves.

However, he also cautioned that once the leaves are brewed & left
aside, bacteria will fester on the leaves, & some of these might not
be beneficial 2 us.
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Re: Pu Ti From Teaspring         


Author: Michael Plant
Date: Apr 8, 2008 13:59

> I've been meditating for 45 years. That discussion is too lengthy for
> this post. I generally know the history of the teas I buy and cherish
> because I do not have money to throw away. I have spent nearly 45 years
> trying to simplify my life. I was sharing what gong-fu means to me. Of
> course, by now, I know how to do gong-fu. You are most likely looking too
> carefully into words. Let it go. I have. Shen "Slow" is the way my spirit
> moves with gong-fu.

Shen, I appreciate your poetic relationship with the tea you drink. My interest was more mundane. I was simply wondering about the style; that is, the vehicle you use for your meditations, so to speak. There is a common feeling out there that if you use a little pot, fill it with leaf, use real hot water, and steep quickly, you've done Gung Fu. For all I know, that's quite right.
Michael
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Author: Shen
Date: Apr 8, 2008 15:13

On Apr 8, 1:59 pm, Michael Plant pipeline.com> wrote:
>> I've been meditating for 45 years.  That discussion is too lengthy for
>> this post. I generally know the history of the teas I buy and cherish
>> because I do not have money to throw away.  I have spent nearly 45 years
>> trying to simplify my life. I was sharing what gong-fu means to me.  Of
>> course, by now, I know how to do gong-fu. You are most likely looking too
>> carefully into words. Let it go.  I have. Shen "Slow" is the way my spirit
>> moves with gong-fu.
>
> Shen, I appreciate your poetic relationship with the tea you drink. My interest was more mundane. I was simply wondering about the style; that is, the vehicle you use for your meditations, so to speak. There is a common feeling out there that if you use...
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Author: Shen
Date: Apr 9, 2008 11:03

On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, Shen gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 1:59 pm, Michael Plant pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>>> I've been meditating for 45 years.  That discussion is too lengthy for
>>> this post. I generally know the history of the teas I buy and cherish
>>> because I do not have money to throw away.  I have spent nearly 45 years
>>> trying to simplify my life. I was sharing what gong-fu means to me.  Of
>>> course, by now, I know how to do gong-fu. You are most likely looking too
>>> carefully into words. Let it go.  I have. Shen "Slow" is the way my spirit
>>> moves with gong-fu.
>
>> Shen, I appreciate your poetic relationship with the tea you drink. My interest was more mundane. I was simply wondering about the style; that is, the vehicle you use for your meditations, so to speak. There is a common feeling out there that if you use a little pot, fill it with leaf, use real hot water, and steep quickly, you've done Gung Fu. For all I know, that's quite right.
>> Michael
>
> Michael,
> I use a pretty standard gong fu method: I use my rosewood tools to
> clear out the spout of the pot and then take my leaves from the
> canister using tongs and put them into the leaf display dish and pass
> that to my friends or if I'm alone I peruse them myself. I wash out my
> cups and rinse the tray, using the water bowl and the wood tongs and ...
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Date: Apr 9, 2008 12:00

On 2008-04-09, Shen gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I di for get two things: I do use a fair cup, a small pitcher to which
> I pour the tea from the pot and then pour the tea from the fair cup
> into the smaller tea cups. And, I do ask all my guests, or just
> myself, to look at the wet leaves the first go round, as they dance
> and unfurl.
> As I said, I don't know how "real" this all is or if I'm doing it
> exactly right, but wabi-sabi..........

I think the kung fu is in the knowledge, skill, patience, and practice,
not the exact method, tools used, or the amount of leaf used. I don't
know that I have any of these things, but they're at least the things
that I would like to strive for.
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Re: Pu Ti From Teaspring         


Author: Melinda
Date: Apr 10, 2008 16:13

Shen wrote:
> On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, Shen gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 1:59 pm, Michael Plant pipeline.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I've been meditating for 45 years. That discussion is too lengthy for
>>>> this post. I generally know the history of the teas I buy and cherish
>>>> because I do not have money to throw away. I have spent nearly 45 years
>>>> trying to simplify my life. I was sharing what gong-fu means to me. Of
>>>> course, by now, I know how to do gong-fu. You are most likely looking too
>>>> carefully into words. Let it go. I have. Shen "Slow" is the way my spirit
>>>> moves with gong-fu.
>>> Shen, I appreciate your poetic relationship with the tea you drink. My interest was more mundane. I was simply wondering about the style; that is, the vehicle you use for your meditations, so to speak. There is a common feeling out there that if you use a little pot, fill it with leaf, use real hot water, and steep quickly, you've done Gung Fu. For all I know, that's quite right.
>>> Michael
>> Michael,
>> I use a pretty standard gong fu method: I use my rosewood tools to
>> clear out the spout of the pot and then take my leaves from the
>> canister using tongs and put them into the leaf display dish and pass
>> that to my friends or if I'm alone I peruse them myself. I wash out my
>> cups and rinse the tray, using the water bowl and the wood tongs and
>> wash out the pot, the aroma cups etc. I then put the leaves into the ...
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Author: Shen
Date: Apr 10, 2008 16:40

On Apr 10, 4:14 pm, Melinda wrote:
> Shen wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 3:13 pm, Shen gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 8, 1:59 pm, Michael Plant pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> I've been meditating for 45 years.  That discussion is too lengthy for
>>>>> this post. I generally know the history of the teas I buy and cherish
>>>>> because I do not have money to throw away.  I have spent nearly 45 years
>>>>> trying to simplify my life. I was sharing what gong-fu means to me.  Of
>>>>> course, by now, I know how to do gong-fu. You are most likely looking too
>>>>> carefully into words. Let it go.  I have. Shen "Slow" is the way my spirit
>>>>> moves with gong-fu.
>>>> Shen, I appreciate your poetic relationship with the tea you drink. My interest was more mundane. I was simply wondering about the style; that is, the vehicle you use for your meditations, so to speak. There is a common feeling out there that if you use a little pot, fill it with leaf, use real hot water, and steep quickly, you've done Gung Fu. For all I know, that's quite right.
>>>> Michael
>>> Michael,
>>> I use a pretty standard gong fu method: I use my rosewood tools to
>>> clear out the spout of the pot and then take my leaves from the
>>> canister using tongs and put them into the leaf display dish and pass
>>> that to my friends or if I'm alone I peruse them myself. I wash out my
>>> cups and rinse the tray, using the water bowl and the wood tongs and ...
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