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Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: SB
Date: Nov 17, 2007 19:38

"The company responsible for the ubiquity of coffee shops finds itself
struggling with flagging growth, increased competition, and a declining
stock price..."

Business Week: http://easyurl.net/4e9
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: John S.
Date: Nov 18, 2007 17:18

On Nov 17, 10:38 pm, SB
spamexpire-200711.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> "The company responsible for the ubiquity of coffee shops finds itself
> struggling with flagging growth, increased competition, and a declining
> stock price..."
>
> Business Week:http://easyurl.net/4e9

They are experiencing flagging growth because they are so big there
are few new markets to expand into. Not at all surprising for the
company that pretty much led the way to better coffee.
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: hanknj1
Date: Nov 22, 2007 03:00

According to what I have read it was mainly MacDonalds' concentrated efforts
to cut into Starbucks market that was responsible for Starbucks' recent
financial woes. I know that MacDonalds and Dunkin Donuts have both decided
to go after Starbucks' clientel but I can't see how anyone buying coffee
from either MacDonalds or DD would ever give up being a Starbucks client.
But, then again, I never buy just coffee from Starbucks; it's usually an
espresso or cappuccino. I guess the majority of Starbucks' clients must be
"plain" coffee drinkers. Even considering that, I find MacDonalds "improved"
coffee to be barely drinkable and the new DD coffees to be swill. I choose
Starbucks only if I am on the road and can't brew my own coffee and would
only hit MacDonalds or DD if there was absolutely...
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: Flasherly
Date: Nov 22, 2007 06:52

On Nov 22, 6:00 am, "hanknj1" hankgans.com> wrote:
> According to what I have read it was mainly MacDonalds' concentrated efforts
> to cut into Starbucks market that was responsible for Starbucks' recent
> financial woes. I know that MacDonalds and Dunkin Donuts have both decided
> to go after Starbucks' clientel but I can't see how anyone buying coffee
> from either MacDonalds or DD would ever give up being a Starbucks client.
> But, then again, I never buy just coffee from Starbucks; it's usually an
> espresso or cappuccino. I guess the majority of Starbucks' clients must be
> "plain" coffee drinkers. Even considering that, I find MacDonalds "improved"
> coffee to be barely drinkable and the new DD coffees to be swill. I choose
> Starbucks only if I am on the road and can't brew my...
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: John S.
Date: Nov 26, 2007 12:58

On Nov 22, 6:00 am, "hanknj1" hankgans.com> wrote:
> According to what I have read it was mainly MacDonalds' concentrated efforts
> to cut into Starbucks market that was responsible for Starbucks' recent
> financial woes.

Well, their woes are really a declining growth rate more than anything
else.
> I know that MacDonalds and Dunkin Donuts have both decided
> to go after Starbucks' clientel but I can't see how anyone buying coffee
> from either MacDonalds or DD would ever give up being a Starbucks client.

Actually it is thinking that one's are so much better that they are
above competing with riff-raff coffee purveyors like McDonalds and
Dunkin Donuts that will get Starbucks or the local espresso shop in
trouble quickly. Coffee is taken many times by impulse, and a
competitor moves in closer to where the customers are with a drink
that is a reasonable substitute then that's where the business will
go.
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: er
Date: Jan 27, 2008 11:45

> We all have different tastes, of course. But to my taste, yes, it *is*
> that bad. I'll grant you that there may be places that are worse, but
> to me Starbucks coffee is simply awful. It's not even a matter of
> price or value. Even if it were free, I'd rather have no coffee than
> Starbucks coffee.
>
> --
> Ken Blake
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bingo!

I won't often turn down a cup of coffee ....unless I know it's *$.

Something about that char-broiled taste that can just ruin my day.

ds
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: L Alpert
Date: Mar 26, 2008 09:03

"Anthony Ferrante" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:811np3p646nh8djrd2ihq58c6fl99jieb0@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:06:05 -0500, "631grant"
> bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>It depends on how much stuff you put in to hide the taste of the awful
>>coffee...............
>
> Come on, be fair. It is really not that bad. It is better than a lot
> of coffee that I have gotten in some restaurants. Yes, it is costly,
> too costly really, and probably not as good as some specialty coffee
> shops, but I have worse.
>
> Anthony
>

The best I've had

http://www.peets.com/
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: EskWIRED
Date: Mar 26, 2008 09:30

In alt.coffee L Alpert xxgmail.com> wrote:
> The best I've had

You need to get out more.

--
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: lockjaw
Date: Mar 26, 2008 15:20

>
>> Anthony
>
> The best I've had
>
> http://www.peets.com/

NOT at any peets I've been to in the last 5 years

:(
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Re: Starbucks: Trouble in Latte Land         


Author: L Alpert
Date: Mar 28, 2008 04:45

"lockjaw" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:00d66fe7-46e0-4abb-9094-cf56c33e3c37@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>>> Anthony
>>
>> The best I've had
>>
>> http://www.peets.com/
>
> NOT at any peets I've been to in the last 5 years
>
> :(

I don't go to the storefronts, I get mine via mail order.
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