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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: mm
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:10

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:20:39 -0700 (PDT), monkey_cartman@yahoo.com
wrote:
>I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker
>storage got high and a single ice cube got
>placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while,
>but started getting smaller, now it is
>almost nothing.
>
>What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to
>stay the same?

When I had roommates, it used to annoy me how they would fail to fill
up the ice cube trays after they used ice.

Eventually I got down to no roommates, but still they came in and used
my ice.

Eventually I figured out that the ice was sublimating, going from
solid to gas without passing through a liquid state. It happens
whenever there is air above the ice, and if you don't use your ice for
weeks or months like me, it's very noticeable.
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: monkey_cartman
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:17

PD wrote:
> On Mar 18, 9:49�am, DerbyDad03 eznet.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> In desparate cases, when the ice cubes are removed by the human on a
>> regular basis (resulting in few, if any, strays) the mites have been
>> known to use their ice grabbing tenticles to create a small hole in
>> freezer bags, allowing in just enough moisture for frost to form on
>> the stored object. This gives them another source of ice to numb their
>> gums.
>
> On this note, it's been observed that if you want to freeze meat or
> fish or shrimp and have it be just as good months later, a good
> technique is to put the food in a ziplock bag and then fill the bag
> full of water before zipping the bag shut. Freezer burn is due to
> sublimation of the water in the food, and by the method just
> described...
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: DerbyDad03
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:21

On Mar 18, 9:36 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" snet.net> wrote:
> "jmcquown" comcast.net> wrote in message
>
>> You've gotten some good answers.  I asked a while back why a glass filled
>> with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't
>> drink any of the water :)  I can't for the life of me remember the answer
>> and am too lazy to Google for it.  It just seemed a curious thing to me.
>
>> Jill
>
> Most thing shrink when frozen. Water expands when it freezes and can exert a
> lot of pressure.  Thusly, when ice melts the volume decreases.

re: Most thing shrink when frozen

Which is why I avoid nude beaches when the water's cold.
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: monkey_cartman
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:21

PD wrote:
> On Mar 18, 11:55�am, Smitty Two earthlink.net> wrote:
>> In article
>> f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> �monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker
>>> storage got high and a single ice cube got
>>> placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while,
>>> but started getting smaller, now it is
>>> almost nothing.
>>
>>> What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to
>>> stay the same?
>>
>> Other's have addressed your concern, but since you brought up ice cubes,
>> maybe I can hijack the thread for a moment and invite speculation on an
>> odd experience I had many years ago.
>>
>> In a standard plastic ice cube tray in my freezer, one of the cubes grew ...
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: DerbyDad03
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:23

On Mar 18, 8:15 pm, Puester worldnet.att.net> wrote:
- DerbyDad03 wrote:
-
- - I used to know a lot of facts about Archimedes but something
seems to have displaced that knowledge.

- Do you suppose it's due to too many baths?
-
- gloria p

Or from getting crowned...
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: monkey_cartman
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:27

notbob wrote:
> On 2008-03-18, PD gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> described, the added water does the sublimating rather than the food.
>>
>> I tried this trick with same-day shrimp acquired in South Carolina in
>> June, and I thawed the last 2-lb bag for dinner in January, and it
>> tasted just like the shrimp cooked the first day.
>
> I agree. Used to be able to buy 4lb of shrimp in blocks of ice. It would
> keep almost forever and taste nearly fresh upon melting. These newer
> packaging methods using flash freezing are already somewhat mummified right
> out of the market. Nowhere near the moisture and freshness. This also
> works for fish you catch yourself. Put in topless milk cartons full of
> water and freeze. The meat retains it's firmness and moisture. I never
>...
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: Edwin Pawlowski
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:30

yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> I used to always freeze fish in plastic grocery bags and they would go
> bad pretty fast. A shame ending a fishes
> life by keeping them and not even using them. The carton method isn't
> very practical for me, Any ideas for
> freezing fish to last at least a month?

Vacuum sealer
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: monkey_cartman
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:32

jmcquown wrote:
> monkey_cartman@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I have a fridge\freezer with an ice maker. The automatic ice maker
>> storage got high and a single ice cube got
>> placed behind the large storage tray, it has sat there for a while,
>> but started getting smaller, now it is
>> almost nothing.
>>
>> What causes this cube to get smaller in an environment that appears to
>> stay the same?
>>
> You've gotten some good answers. I asked a while back why a glass filled
> with ice and water added doesn't overflow when the ice melts if you don't
> drink any of the water :) I can't for the life of me remember the answer
> and am too lazy to Google for it. It just seemed a curious thing to me.
>
> Jill

Very much good answers, it's nice to see people sharing their ideas
and knowledge.
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: monkey_cartman
Date: Mar 18, 2008 19:42

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> I used to always freeze fish in plastic grocery bags and they would go
>> bad pretty fast. A shame ending a fishes
>> life by keeping them and not even using them. The carton method isn't
>> very practical for me, Any ideas for
>> freezing fish to last at least a month?
>
> Vacuum sealer

Cool, I will look into that. Very disappointing throwing fish or any
food for that matter away.
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Re: ice cube madness         


Author: mm
Date: Mar 18, 2008 20:11

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:37:45 -0700 (PDT), "hallerb@aol.com"
aol.com> wrote:
>Had a home for sale with a ice maker that sat vacant for several
>months, a idiot home inspector wrote up mal formed ice cubes from
>maker, because they had sublimiated away. true what was left of the
>cubes looked wierd.
>
>the deal fell thru buyer said your home has too many troubles.

Some refrigerators were made with a freon/thalidomide combination, and
that causes malformed ice cubes. Early imports from China.
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