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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: Sheldon
Date: May 11, 2008 13:44

Mark Thorson sonic.net> wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
>> A stick blender won't work any better than a regular blender or her
>> food processor.
>
> I'd agree that a stick blender is no better than
> a regular blender, but I disagree with regard to
> a food processor. �With a blender, there's at least
> a chance it would achieve a fine grind. �I'm pretty
> sure a normal food processor would produce a coarse
> grind, at best.
>
>> All else fails I'd try crumbling a few bay leaves and running them
>> through a pepper mill set on the finest grind... I've never done this
>> so I've no idea of the results, and I'm not intimately familiar with
>> Goomba's grinder but I've heard only good things. ;)
>
> That's a good suggestion. �I think it might work.
> Of course, that assumes she has a pepper mill. ...
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: Mark Thorson
Date: May 11, 2008 13:54

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>> That seems like an even better suggestion. She could
>> do a cold infusion overnight into the cider vinegar
>> without upsetting the basic proportions of the recipe.
>> I've never done a cold extraction on bay leaves,
>> so I don't know how easily they give up their flavor.
>
> I wonder.... fresh leaves over dried would seem preferable
> in an infusion, right?

Yes, more likely to surrender their flavors.
Of course, bruising them up a little would
be even more likely to produce a successful
result.
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: Wayne Boatwright
Date: May 11, 2008 14:07

On Sun 11 May 2008 01:33:40p, Goomba38 told us...
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>> That seems like an even better suggestion. She could
>> do a cold infusion overnight into the cider vinegar
>> without upsetting the basic proportions of the recipe.
>> I've never done a cold extraction on bay leaves, so I don't know how
>> easily they give up their flavor.
>
> I wonder.... fresh leaves over dried would seem preferable in an
> infusion, right?
>

Yes, and I would coarsely chop the leaves to expose maximum open edge area.
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: Steve Pope
Date: May 11, 2008 14:14

sf gmail.com :)> wrote:
>On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:09:54 -0700, Mark Thorson sonic.net>
>wrote:
>>sf wrote:
>>> I'm surprised by the amount of chiles.
>>Ancho chiles aren't very hot. They mostly have
>>chile flavor.
>I wasn't talking about heat, just the pure *amount* for only 1.5
>pounds of meat.

In my experience sausage in general can take a huge ratio of
ground spices. I put handfuls of cayenne and fennel into Italian
sausage for example. 8 or 12 anchos for a pound of pork does
not seem too excessive to me.

Steve
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: Sheldon
Date: May 11, 2008 17:18

On May 11, 5:07�pm, Wayne Boatwright arizona.usa.com>
wrote:
> On Sun 11 May 2008 01:33:40p, Goomba38 told us...
>
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>>> That seems like an even better suggestion. �She could
>>> do a cold infusion overnight into the cider vinegar
>>> without upsetting the basic proportions of the recipe.
>>> I've never done a cold extraction on bay leaves, so I don't know how
>>> easily they give up their flavor.
>
>> I wonder.... fresh leaves over dried would seem preferable in an
>> infusion, right?
>
> Yes, and I would coarsely chop the leaves to expose maximum open edge area.

Why don't you STFU, you *disingenuous* faggoty bastard
... you look exacly like someone who enjoys swallowing penis.
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: Peter
Date: May 11, 2008 17:50

"Christine Dabney" ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 May 2008 11:49:16 -0400, Goomba38 comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Last night I made chorizo per the recipe in Rick Bayless' "Mexico, One
>>Plate at a Time" cookbook. It calls for you to grind the bay leaves with
>> mortar and pestle, which I don't own. I tried to do it in the food
>>processor, even adding the salt from the recipe to act as an abrasive
>>but it barely worked.
>>Any other suggestions to get the job done?
>
> Use a coffee grinder, like a Braun, or Krups. I use one for spices
> all the time.
>
> Christine

I have an electric coffee grinder for spice grinding.

Earlier this evening I even ground up some dried mushrooms in it, a
sprinkled topping on a rice dish.
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: weedhopper
Date: May 11, 2008 19:09

"Goomba38" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Bobo Bonobo
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: weedhopper
Date: May 11, 2008 19:11

"Goomba38" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Steve Pope wrote:
>
>> The Rick Bayless recipe for chorizo seasoning I have does
>> not include ground bay leaves. Steve
>
> From "Mexico-One Plate at a Time" page 26
> Chorizo Mexicano
>
> 1.5 pounds lean boneless pork shoulder..
> 8 ounces pork fat
> 12 medium dried ancho chiles...
> 2 bay leaves
> 1.5 tsp cinnamon, pref fresh ground Mexican canela
> 1/8 tsp cloves, pref fresh ground
> 1 tsp dried Mexican oregano
> Thyme and marjoram (1 T fresh or 1 tsp dried)
> Salt
> 1/4 cup cider vinegar ...
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: weedhopper
Date: May 11, 2008 19:12

"Goomba38" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:09:54 -0700, Mark Thorson sonic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> I'm surprised by the amount of chiles.
>>> Ancho chiles aren't very hot. They mostly have
>>> chile flavor.
>>
>> I wasn't talking about heat, just the pure *amount* for only 1.5
>> pounds of meat.
>>
> well, add the other half pound of fat too.
> It works. What can I say?
> (and unlike many commercial chorizo...it doesn't contain salivary and
> lymph glands. Ugh.)

That's what gives it the good flavor.
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Re: Grinding Bay Leaves         


Author: weedhopper
Date: May 11, 2008 19:15

"Goomba38" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 11:49:16 -0400, Goomba38 wrote:
>>
>>> Last night I made chorizo per the recipe in Rick Bayless' "Mexico, One
>>> Plate at a Time" cookbook. It calls for you to grind the bay leaves with
>>> mortar and pestle, which I don't own.
>>
>> You don't own a mortar and pestle? Good grief. We have two.
>>
>> Call yourself a foodie? For shame!
>>
> Hi... I'm Goomba... I used to be a foodie until my dirty
> little secret came out-I don't have a mortar and pestle! I have an
> adorable and very user friendly little nutmeg grinder though.. does that
> count? LOL
>
> I never had a recipe that called for ground bay leaves before! Honest!
> I always use them whole. I guess I should look into either the spice ...
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