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Author: russellseaton1russellseaton1 Date: Nov 20, 2007 15:53
On Nov 20, 12:50 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus hotmail.com>
wrote:> Any websites that sell good wool
> jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
> ass in synthetics that promise but don't
> deliver.
Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
unbelievable. Wool must be the newest in thing to have and the
sellers figure they can charge anything they want because there are
lots of fools willing to pay anything. Great business if you can get
it. Rivendell follows this model. Colnago follows this model. Trek
too with its $7000 Madone bikes.
If you just want to try wool clothes while biking, consider getting
wool sweaters from the Good Will store. Or if you have to have new,
Campmor and other camping places sell wool crewneck underwear for not
a lot of money.
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Author: Ozark BicycleOzark Bicycle Date: Nov 20, 2007 16:18
On Nov 20, 8:53 am, "russellseat...@ yahoo.com"
yahoo.com> wrote:> On Nov 20, 12:50 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> Any websites that sell good wool
>> jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
>> ass in synthetics that promise but don't
>> deliver.
>
> Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
> layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
> unbelievable.
IIRC, good wool jerseys retailed for $35-40 in the mid-1980s.
According to the inflation calculator at Westegg.com, $35 in "1985
dollars" is $65.49 in "2006 dollars". so, the price of a wool jersey
has effectively doubled (adjusted for inflation) in the past ~20
years. I would consider a new wool jersey if the retail price was
$65-70; but at $130+, never!
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Author: LukeLuke Date: Nov 20, 2007 17:47
> If you just want to try wool clothes while biking, consider getting
> wool sweaters from the Good Will store.
....
Current going rate for Merino or Lambswool pullovers at local
thriftshops: $8. These form comfortable, stenchless base layers.
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Author: Tim McNamaraTim McNamara Date: Nov 20, 2007 22:38
> On Nov 20, 12:50 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus hotmail.com>
> wrote:>> Any websites that sell good wool jerseys? I'm just tired of
>> freezing my ass in synthetics that promise but don't deliver.
>
> Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
> layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
> unbelievable. Wool must be the newest in thing to have and the
> sellers figure they can charge anything they want because there are
> lots of fools willing to pay anything.
Wool's expensive to produce and economies of scale are harder to achieve
compared to spinning synthetic fibers 24/7 out of a bunch of machines.
In case you didn't know it, BTW, wool production is also subsidized
under the Farm Bill in the US. The subsidies ended in 1996 under the
Clinton Administration and were reintroduced in the 2002 Farm Bill. I
don't know if they will be extended in the current Farm bill.
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Author: John ThompsonJohn Thompson Date: Nov 21, 2007 03:49
On 2007-11-20, russellseaton1@ yahoo.com yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
> unbelievable. Wool must be the newest in thing to have and the
> sellers figure they can charge anything they want because there are
> lots of fools willing to pay anything.
Wool was expensive 30 years ago when I bought my wool cycling togs. I
just had Kucharik put new elastic and chamois in two pairs of wool
shorts last year, so they're good for another 30 years now. :-)
Jerseys and tights seem to be holding up well also, apart from some
stains.
> If you just want to try wool clothes while biking, consider getting
> wool sweaters from the Good Will store. Or if you have to have new,
> Campmor and other camping places sell wool crewneck underwear for not
> a lot of money.
You can often find inexpensive wool jerseys from obscure amateur teams
on eBay. I've gotten several for < US$20 that way. Shorts and tights
seem somewhat rarer.
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Author: Mike JacoubowskyMike Jacoubowsky Date: Nov 21, 2007 17:21
>> Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
>> layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
>> unbelievable.
>
> IIRC, good wool jerseys retailed for $35-40 in the mid-1980s.
> According to the inflation calculator at Westegg.com, $35 in "1985
> dollars" is $65.49 in "2006 dollars". so, the price of a wool jersey
> has effectively doubled (adjusted for inflation) in the past ~20
> years. I would consider a new wool jersey if the retail price was
> $65-70; but at $130+, never!
You've pretty much nailed the reason a wool jersey costs so much then. Add
the inflation calculator to the devaluation of the dollar that's happened
during the same time frame, and you probably get darn close to the $130
current pricing.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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Author: Ozark BicycleOzark Bicycle Date: Nov 21, 2007 22:57
On Nov 21, 10:21 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" ix.netcom.com> wrote:>>> Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
>>> layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
>>> unbelievable.
>
>> IIRC, good wool jerseys retailed for $35-40 in the mid-1980s.
>> According to the inflation calculator at Westegg.com, $35 in "1985
>> dollars" is $65.49 in "2006 dollars". so, the price of a wool jersey
>> has effectively doubled (adjusted for inflation) in the past ~20
>> years. I would consider a new wool jersey if the retail price was
>> $65-70; but at $130+, never! >
> You've pretty much nailed the reason a wool jersey costs so much then. Add
> the inflation calculator to the devaluation of the dollar that's happened
> during the same time frame, and...
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Author: russellseaton1russellseaton1 Date: Nov 22, 2007 01:18
On Nov 21, 3:57 pm, Ozark Bicycle
ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:> On Nov 21, 10:21 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
>>>> layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
>>>> unbelievable.
>
>>> IIRC, good wool jerseys retailed for $35-40 in the mid-1980s.
>>> According to the inflation calculator at Westegg.com, $35 in "1985
>>> dollars" is $65.49 in "2006 dollars". so, the price of a wool jersey
>>> has effectively doubled (adjusted for inflation) in the past ~20
>>> years. I would consider a new wool jersey if the retail price was
>>> $65-70; but at $130+, never! >
>> You've pretty much nailed the reason a wool jersey costs so much then. Add ...
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Author: frkrygowfrkrygow Date: Nov 22, 2007 02:57
On Nov 21, 7:18 pm, "russellseat...@ yahoo.com"
yahoo.com> wrote:>
> And of course the dollar devaluation in the past 3 years should only
> affect imports. So any and all wool clothes made in the USA should be
> unaffected. Unless the wool is imported. But I was reading on a wool
> website that the US is a wool exporter in total. So I think marketing
> is the reason wool jerseys are expensive, not currency fluctuations or
> inflation. Wool is in so people will pay.
I agree. On a business trip to Britain a few years ago, I bought a
very nice wool sweater at an outdoor weekend market in a small
village. I paid roughly $15 for it, IIRC. Based on that, the price
surge isn't because of the cost of the wool.
... which is frustrating. I've loved wool clothing for many, many
years - and I'm not talking just cycling clothes, but sweaters,
shirts, pants, etc. But it was always hard to find
Now that it's easier to find, it's becoming "in," so it's generally
expensive.
- Frank Krygowski
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Author: Mike JacoubowskyMike Jacoubowsky Date: Nov 22, 2007 22:24
>>>> IIRC, good wool jerseys retailed for $35-40 in the mid-1980s.
>>>> According to the inflation calculator at Westegg.com, $35 in "1985
>>>> dollars" is $65.49 in "2006 dollars". so, the price of a wool jersey
>>>> has effectively doubled (adjusted for inflation) in the past ~20
>>>> years. I would consider a new wool jersey if the retail price was
>>>> $65-70; but at $130+, never! >>
>>> You've pretty much nailed the reason a wool jersey costs so much then.
>>> Add
>>> the inflation calculator to the devaluation of the dollar that's
>>> happened
>>> during the same time frame, and you probably get darn close to the $130
>>> current pricing.
>>
>> Wool jerseys have been pricey for several years, whilst the decline of
>> the dollar is a bit more recent. And, do not inflation...
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