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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: carlfogel
Date: Dec 24, 2008 20:30

On 24 Dec 2008 07:26:25 GMT, terryc woa.com.au>
wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:12 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
>
>
>> And that three bike trailers for one van sounds like an optimistic
>> calculation--compare the bike trailer's tiny capacity to the big brown...
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: terryc
Date: Dec 25, 2008 02:35

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:30:26 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
> On 24 Dec 2008 07:26:25 GMT, terryc woa.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:12 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And that three bike trailers for one van sounds like an...
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: carlfogel
Date: Dec 25, 2008 05:35

On 25 Dec 2008 01:35:41 GMT, terryc woa.com.au>
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:30:26 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
>
>> On 24 Dec 2008 07:26:25 GMT, terryc woa.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:19:12 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
>>>...
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: terryc
Date: Dec 26, 2008 04:04

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:35:47 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
> It's a large advantage to load and deliver the whole load of packages
> instead of going back repeatedly to the storage depot.

Only if the loop is geographically distant. If that isnot the case, then
it is irrelevant. Easier and cheaper to return to home to reload andhave
monirning brek, then back fir lunch and again in the afternoon.

As I said, people(trolls) are imagining extreme exmples to try and argue
against bicycles.

There are those of use who have BTDT.
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: carlfogel
Date: Dec 26, 2008 04:59

On 26 Dec 2008 03:04:26 GMT, terryc woa.com.au>
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:35:47 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
>
>
>> It's a large advantage to load and deliver the whole load of packages
>> instead of going back repeatedly to the storage depot.
>
>Only if the loop is geographically distant. If that isnot the case, then
>it is irrelevant. Easier and cheaper to return to home to reload andhave
>monirning brek, then back fir lunch and again in the afternoon.
>
>As I said, people(trolls) are imagining extreme exmples to try and argue
>against bicycles.
>
>There are those of use who have BTDT.

Dear Terry,

Do the arithmetic for any distance that you please.

Here's a simple example.
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: terryc
Date: Dec 26, 2008 14:58

On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:59:59 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
> Now imagine a delivery route that just goes straight out the street to
> three houses, each one mile further.

Step right up into the light Troll.
Yawn, and go back to the reality of it. Peak season, overload, not
relevant. as I said in the last message, you're masturbating your little
fantasies of some weird, contrived example to demonostrate some extreme
result. Ask yourself who posts a TV, because that is what your example
requires.

As I said, some of us have been there and done that.
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: carlfogel
Date: Dec 26, 2008 19:35

On 26 Dec 2008 13:58:16 GMT, terryc woa.com.au>
wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:59:59 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
>
>
>> Now imagine a delivery route that just goes straight out the street to
>> three houses, each one mile further.
>
>Step right up into the light Troll.
>Yawn, and go back to the reality of it. Peak season, overload, not
>relevant. as I said in the last message, you're masturbating your little
>fantasies of some weird, contrived example to demonostrate some extreme
>result. Ask yourself who posts a TV, because that is what your example
>requires.
>
>As I said, some of us have been there and done that.

Dear Terry,

Are you now claiming that you have delivered packages for UPS by
bicycle?
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: Tom Sherman
Date: Dec 26, 2008 20:52

Phil W Lee wrote:
>
> Bicycles are used very successfully by Royal Mail for letter and small
> package deliveries in every non-rural part of the UK, so I'd guess
> that the addition of a trailer simply allows that same business model
> to be extended to slightly larger parcels.
> Not so much an innovation as a natural evolution.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: russellseaton1
Date: Dec 26, 2008 22:38

On Dec 26, 1:52 pm, Tom Sherman REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Phil W Lee wrote:
>
>> Bicycles are used very successfully by Royal Mail for letter and small
>> package deliveries in every non-rural part of the UK, so I'd guess
>> that the addition of a trailer simply allows that same business model
>> to be extended to slightly larger parcels.
>> Not so much an innovation as a natural evolution.
>
> E.g. <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/mailstar.html>.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
> LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

I'm curious how they keep the front wheel from flopping over on that
Pashley mail bike with that huge tub on the front.

In the image gallery the Lizzy Mrs Moulton picture is mighty pleasing
to the eyes.
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Re: UPS bike deliveries         


Author: A Muzi
Date: Dec 27, 2008 00:50

carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On 26 Dec 2008 13:58:16 GMT, terryc woa.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:59:59 -0700, carlfogel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Now imagine a delivery route that just goes straight out the street to
>>> three houses, each one mile further.
>> Step right up into the light Troll.
>> Yawn, and go back to the reality of it. Peak season, overload, not
>> relevant. as I said in the last message, you're masturbating your little
>> fantasies of some weird, contrived example to demonostrate some extreme
>> result. Ask yourself who posts a TV, because that is what your example
>> requires.
>>
>> As I said, some of us have been there and done that.
>
> Dear Terry,
> ...
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