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SRAM Force test ride         


Author: russellseaton1
Date: Aug 1, 2006 22:59

Cannondale was loaning out bikes for test rides on a recent ride. I
borrowed a new Cannondale System Six bike with SRAM Force shifters and
both derailleurs. The System Six has carbon toptube, downtube,
headtube. And aluminum seattube, chainstays, seatstays. Carbon fork,
integrated headset. 58cm size. Sort of compact shaped frame.
Cannondale Hollowgram aluminum crankset, 53-39 rings. Cannondale house
brand dual pivot caliper brakes. Dura Ace chain. Ultegra or Dura Ace
10 speed cassette, 12-25. Mavic Ksyrium ES SC SL or something wheels.
Black with one red spoke. Michelin tires I think. FSA carbon bar,
round, not wing shaped. Cannondale house brand carbon stem. USE Alien
carbon seatpost. 31.8mm. Fizik saddle.

Ride consisted of 80 miles of hills, headwind, and heat. Bike was very
fast and very light. There may have been some new bike placebo effect
at work. It may have been I was extra strong that day. But the bike
was not a deterrent to fast riding. Bike rode no hands at speed just
fine. Steering seemed neutral enough. A very nice bike. I think the
retail price is around $5,000.
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: larrylikesthecircus
Date: Aug 1, 2006 23:41

russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:

The System Six bike was nicer and faster
> than the Synapse.

Pray tell. How was the bike faster?
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: eoweiss
Date: Aug 2, 2006 00:11

You say it's easy to overshift in the rear, easy to accidentally
downshift in the front. And no trim in the big ring. That doesn't
sound like "A definite improvement over STI."

OK, before you say "rebuildable" it just doesn't sound quite as well
thought out or refined as STI (strictly in terms of functionality) or
Ergo.

russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> Cannondale was loaning out bikes for test rides on a recent ride. I
> borrowed a new Cannondale System Six bike with SRAM Force shifters and
> both derailleurs. The...
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: Jeff Starr
Date: Aug 2, 2006 01:38

On 1 Aug 2006 13:59:00 -0700, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>The next day I test rode a Cannondale Synapse all carbon frame bike
>with Shimano 105 10 speed triple. Another 80 miles of hills, headwind,
>and heat. And some flat too. The System Six bike was nicer and faster
>than the Synapse. SRAM Force was nicer than the Shimano 105.

Thanks for the report.

Life is Good!
Jeff
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Date: Aug 2, 2006 15:26

eoweiss@gmail.com wrote:
> You say it's easy to overshift in the rear, easy to accidentally
> downshift in the front. And no trim in the big ring. That doesn't
> sound like "A definite improvement over STI."
>
> OK, before you say "rebuildable" it just doesn't sound quite as well
> thought out or refined as STI (strictly in terms of functionality) or
> Ergo.

I have ridden Dan Smatz's bike(local racer) and installed a group on
one of his bikes(all Force stuff) and I agree with the teat ride. NOT
very refined shifting but first wack at it...EXPENSIVE tho-trying...
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: russellseaton1
Date: Aug 2, 2006 17:18

eoweiss@gmail.com wrote:
> You say it's easy to overshift in the rear, easy to accidentally
> downshift in the front. And no trim in the big ring. That doesn't
> sound like "A definite improvement over STI."

Not easy to overshift in the rear, but more likely than with Ergo or
STI. Since you have one lever doing both the upshifting and
downshifting, and you have to move that lever so far to get past the
shift to a smaller cog spot, you can then push it too far to get two
shifts up in back instead of the one you wanted. Its a problem of
having the one lever do two things that are the opposite of each other,
upshift and downshift. Vast majority of the time it works fine,
particularly if you are taking your time shifting and not trying to get
up the hills fast. But sometimes I like to ride hard up the hills and
that is when you can shift up more cogs than you want, when you are
riding hard and shifting quick.
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: russellseaton1
Date: Aug 2, 2006 17:41

larrylikesthecircus@yahoo.com wrote:
> russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The System Six bike was nicer and faster
>> than the Synapse.
>
>
> Pray tell. How was the bike faster?

I covered roughly the same distance faster on the System Six than on
the Synapse. And the terrain was more difficult on the System Six day
than on the Synapse day. And the temperature was hotter on the System
Six day than on the Synapse day. And the headwind was stronger on the
System Six day than on the Synapse day.
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: Sandy
Date: Aug 2, 2006 18:35

russellseaton1@yahoo.com a écrit :
> larrylikesthecircus@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> The System Six bike was nicer and faster
>>
>>> than the Synapse.
>>>
>> Pray tell. How was the bike faster?
>>
>
> I covered roughly the same distance faster on the System Six than on
> the Synapse. And the terrain was more difficult on the System Six day
> than on the Synapse day. And the temperature was hotter on the System
> Six day than on the Synapse day. And the headwind was stronger on the
> System Six day than on the Synapse day.
>
>
Aha ! It was faster. Funny. I thought you wrote that in the OP. ...
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: eoweiss
Date: Aug 2, 2006 22:25

Cool, I appreciate the details. I will say I have owned and spent lots
of time on bikes with Shimano 9, Shimano 10, and Campy 10. In sheer
terms of functionality I find all these systems great and have no
strong preference for either. And while the Campy front derailleur
system is definitely better than Shimano's, I've also never experienced
any problems with trim on a properly adjusted Shimano bike. Front STI
is just very sensitive to proper adjustment, and a lot of riders and
shops don't seem to set them up accurately. Once it's dialed in it
works very well.

I'm also a big "double check I'm in the big ring while coasting down a
fast descent," so I'd have a real problem unlearning that habit. And
you mention it works better if you "take your time shifting," which
doesn't sound like a good thing in a thoroughbred racing group like
this.

I'm excited SRAM is offering an alternative, but I'm getting the sense
that beyond the boutique appeal there may need to be refinement before
this stuff is at the level of the high-end S and C stuff.

russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> eoweiss@gmail.com wrote:
>> You say it's easy to overshift in the rear, easy to accidentally
>> downshift in the front. And no trim in the big ring. That doesn't
...
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Re: SRAM Force test ride         


Author: larrylikesthecircus
Date: Aug 2, 2006 23:19

russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> larrylikesthecircus@yahoo.com wrote:
>> russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> The System Six bike was nicer and faster
>>> than the Synapse.
>>
>>
>> Pray tell. How was the bike faster?
>
> I covered roughly the same distance faster on the System Six than on
> the Synapse. And the terrain was more difficult on the System Six day
> than on the Synapse day. And the temperature was hotter on the System
> Six day than on the Synapse day. And the headwind was stronger on the
> System Six day than on the Synapse day.

I see. So you were faster not the bike.
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