> http://marine-litter.gpa.unep.org/documents/World's_largest_landfill.pdf
> --
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

> http://marine-litter.gpa.unep.org/documents/World's_largest_landfill.pdf

> http://marine-litter.gpa.unep.org/documents/World's_largest_landfill.pdf

>I would like to direct your attention to the '70s, if I may.
>
> Back then, the problem was paper bags eating up trees at an alarming rate,
> so they came up with plastic bags because of ENVIRONMENTAL concerns --
> paper eats trees, eating trees is bad for the environment, so let's use
> plastic and save the trees. Not a bad argument as arguments go, and I
> generally answered the question, "paper or plastic?" with, "plastic,
> please."
>
> Now, I am the bad guy again because plastic floats.
>
> Environmentalism comes with a wealth of unintended consequences -- we save
> a tree but spoil the water, make electricity from wind but chop up a bird,
> (leaping forward a few decades ... ) drive fuel cell cars and flood the
> side of the road -- that seem to be worse than the problem we wanted to
> remedy when we embarked on the environmentalist agenda.
>
> Having said that, it is refreshing to see Vandeman get excited about a ...

> http://marine-litter.gpa.unep.org/documents/World's_largest_landfill.pdf
> --
> (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>

>
> "Jeff Strickland" verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:mQ2rj.79$x%%3.71@trnddc06...

>>I would like to direct your attention to the '70s, if I may.
>>
>> Back then, the problem was paper bags eating up trees at an alarming
>> rate, so they came up with plastic bags because of ENVIRONMENTAL
>> concerns -- paper eats trees, eating trees is bad for the environment,
>> so let's use plastic and save the trees. Not a bad argument as arguments
>> go, and I generally answered the question, "paper or plastic?" with,
>> "plastic, please."
>>
>> Now, I am the bad guy again because plastic floats.
>>
>> Environmentalism comes with a wealth of unintended consequences -- we
>> save a tree but spoil the water, make electricity from wind but chop up a
>> bird, (leaping forward a few decades ... ) drive fuel cell cars and flood
>> the side of the road -- that seem to be worse than the problem we wanted ...

>On Feb 7, 5:05 pm, Mike Vandeman pacbell.net> wrote:

>> http://marine-litter.gpa.unep.org/documents/World's_largest_landfill.pdf

>
>Beyond this discussion, Mike, is there any other documentation, or
>discussion of the estimated costs for cleanup?