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Author: Darryl RammDarryl Ramm
Date: Sep 7, 2011 09:46
On 9/1/11 2:44 PM, Bill D wrote:
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> This is yet another case where an angle of attack indicator with stall
> warning stick vibrator would have saved a life. Tiny cellphone/pager
> vibrator motors embedded in the stick grip would be an excellent stall
> warning.
I have no idea how you know enough about what was going on with the
aircraft and its pilot (especially inside his head/his perception of the
aircraft situation and flight performance) to know he would have
responded to a stall warning device appropriately and in time to
prevented the crash.
I would like to think maybe there is a stall warning device that might
be developed but I am pessimistic about the effectiveness of these
devices and false alarms while thermalling. And I am a bit bemused...
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Author: Bill DBill D
Date: Sep 6, 2011 20:37
On Sep 5, 12:24 pm, Tom yahoo.com> wrote:> The SSA has recently mailed a letter to the membership regarding the
> continuing unacceptable accident rate. Studies have shown one of the
> primary reasons for a high accident rate is a fundemental lack of
> knowledge. The Joy of Soaring was written as a simple coffee table
> book. It was never designed to be a flight training manual.
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> Tom Knauff
Right on all points.
Bill Daniels
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Author: Walt ConnellyWalt Connelly
Date: Sep 6, 2011 18:06
John Smith;782485 Wrote:
> Walt Connelly wrote:-
> Hard to think of anything other than pilot error for a mid air.-
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> Yes an no. Fact is, it's impossible for a human to see every threat in
> time. Yes, we have to try, but at the same time we must admit that no
> matter how hard we work at it, we will never be able to reach that goal.
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> That's the reason why FLARM has been developed.
I agree but at the same time I would ask if they were doing what I have
been told is important when thermaling with another airplane. If they
were 180 degrees apart in the turn and turning in the same direction it
would seem almost impossible to do a mid air.
I feel it is important to identify the real causes of these accidents
and learn from them. The loss of a life is terrible, failure to learn
from such a loss is inexcusable.
JMHO
Walt
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Author: RamyRamy
Date: Sep 6, 2011 17:06
On Sep 6, 3:57 am, T8 gmail.com> wrote:> On Sep 6, 12:41 am, Eric Greenwell thegreenwells.netto> wrote:
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>>> On Sep 5, 11:24 am, Tom yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> The SSA has recently mailed a letter to the membership regarding the
>>>> continuing unacceptable accident rate. Studies have shown one of the
>>>> primary reasons for a high accident rate is a fundemental lack of
>>>> knowledge. The Joy of Soaring was written as a simple coffee table
>>>> book. It was never designed to be a flight training manual.
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>>>> Tom Knauff
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>>> 30 years ago my instructor at Issaquah Soaring sold me a copy of this
>>> book...............30 years later and a few thousand hours of flight ...
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Author: BradBrad
Date: Sep 6, 2011 16:12
On Sep 6, 3:57 am, T8 gmail.com> wrote:> On Sep 6, 12:41 am, Eric Greenwell thegreenwells.netto> wrote:
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>>> On Sep 5, 11:24 am, Tom yahoo.com> wrote:>>>> The SSA has recently mailed a letter to the membership regarding the
>>>> continuing unacceptable accident rate. Studies have shown one of the
>>>> primary reasons for a high accident rate is a fundemental lack of
>>>> knowledge. The Joy of Soaring was written as a simple coffee table
>>>> book. It was never designed to be a flight training manual.
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Author: kirk.stantkirk.stant
Date: Sep 6, 2011 15:00
On Sep 5, 7:54 pm, Mike Schumann traditions-nospam.com>
wrote:> I am not against all "gadgets". I just think that we need to
> prioritize, given the limited amount of panel space, and equally
> importantly, the limited ability of people to learn how to use all the
> stuff they are putting into their cockpits.
I agree with respect to a lot of the fancy PNA programs - they have
the potential to display so much useless info!
However, we were discussing stick shakers/stall warning systems
specifically - which are pretty bone-simple - even a caveman can
understand how they work!
> At the top of my list would be collision avoidance gear (PowerFlarm /
> ADS-B / transponder type stuff). This will potentially save a properly
> trained pilot. My personal feeling is that you really aren't trained
> properly if you can't sense and feel a stall coming on and don't
> instinctively know what to do about it. Adding another instrument to
> tell you what you should already know, just adds another item to your
> scan, which distracts you from more important stuff, like looking for
> traffic.
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Author: P9P9
Date: Aug 18, 2011 08:13
Another water ballast question.
How well does a fully ballasted glider recover from a spin?
I practice spins every season, dry. The recovery is easy and
predictable. (SZD 55-1) I have never tried a spin with water. If I
accidently spin at low atlitude (1000 ft agl or lower) fully
ballasted, should I attempt to recover, or just bail?
Kerry
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Author: Dan ArmstrongDan Armstrong
Date: Aug 18, 2011 02:51
Experimental Soaring Association 2011 Western Workshop
Friday evening Sept. 2 – Monday Sept. 5, 2011 (Labor Day Weekend)
Mountain Valley Airport (L94), Tehachapi, California
No pre-registration necessary
NOTES:
For Potluck BBQs – bring meat and drink for yourself, and something to
share. Utensils, plates, cups, etc provided
For Saturday night auction – donations of items gratefully accepted –
clean out your workshop and bring that white elephant, which might be
someone else’s treasure…
SCHEDULE – subject to change
FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd
5:30PM - Potluck BBQ at the Byard Hangar (See notes above)
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Author: T8T8
Date: Aug 17, 2011 20:15
On Aug 16, 10:26 pm, toad mac.com> wrote:
> Joe Pilot didn't put the flaps there, Bob the designer did. He had a
> "purpose", which was probably to lower the stall speed and thus the
> approach speed and all the other good things that come from that.
Perhaps. But this *is* a pilots' forum and we all know that -- from
the pilot's point of view
-- the world revolves about him, end of
story. I mean if it wasn't for glider pilots, there wouldn't be much
point in having glider designers. Ergo, Bob put 'em there to be
useful to me, period :-).
-Evan Ludeman / T8
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