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Author: MM Date: Dec 20, 2007 22:06
Dead in the winter, and 100LL is averaging $4.63/gallon at airnav.com,
higher than this summer. This is a first.
I try to be optimistic about flying and all, but it increasingly looks
like we'll have an average $5.5/gal summer in 2008.
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Author: Stealth PilotStealth Pilot Date: Dec 21, 2007 03:55
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:06:04 -0800 (PST), M jthome.com> wrote:
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>Dead in the winter, and 100LL is averaging $4.63/gallon at airnav.com,
>higher than this summer. This is a first.
>
>I try to be optimistic about flying and all, but it increasingly looks
>like we'll have an average $5.5/gal summer in 2008.
it isnt a thousand dollars a litre.
ffs just go flying!
if you cant afford the fuel price then save up for it, get a second
job etc. good grief!
it costs what it costs. everything costs, thats a fundamental aspect
of an economy ffs.
did you enjoy the flying?
did you take time to sniff the roses?
Stealth Pilot
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Author: Jay HoneckJay Honeck Date: Dec 21, 2007 05:41
> In Germany 2,21 EUR/Liter (100LL)
> Makes about 12 USDollar/Gal
> Why do you complain?
> Curt
Bluntly and succinctly put, Curt, we complain because we don't want to
end up like Germany.
The first step toward correcting a problem is recognizing that it
exists. What you call "complaining" we call "constructive
criticism"...
;-)
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Author: kontikikontiki Date: Dec 21, 2007 05:49
Jay Honeck wrote:
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> Taxing an activity until it becomes nearly impossible, as your
> government has done to flying, has traditionally been verboten in
> America. Unfortunately, the anti-smoking crowd has paved the way for
> a whole new series of "social engineering through taxation" measures
> that threaten many aspects of American life -- not just flying.
Well... you shouldn't be flying anyway Jay, it's too dangerous,
you might get hurt, and besides its causing global warming which
will destroy the planet and we are all going to die. You could
put your eye out.
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Author: benford2benford2 Date: Dec 21, 2007 10:30
On Dec 21, 6:49Â am, kontiki frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Jay Honeck wrote:
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>> Taxing an activity until it becomes nearly impossible, as your
>> government has done to flying, has traditionally been verboten in
>> America. Â Unfortunately, the anti-smoking crowd has paved the way for
>> a whole new series of "social engineering through taxation" measures
>> that threaten many aspects of American life -- not just flying.
>
> Well... you shouldn't be flying anyway Jay, it's too dangerous,
> you might get hurt, and besides its causing global warming which
> will destroy the planet and we are all going to die. You could
> put your eye out.
Only if he runs with scissors.. :<)..
Happy holidays kids.
Ben
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Author: Jay HoneckJay Honeck Date: Dec 21, 2007 11:43
> Well... you shouldn't be flying anyway Jay, it's too dangerous,
> you might get hurt, and besides its causing global warming which
> will destroy the planet and we are all going to die. You could
> put your eye out.
I am thankful that you are paying my government to look out for me.
Heck, just look at all they've done for me! They've convinced me to
quit smoking (21 years and counting), prevented me from buying an
electric car, incented me to shop outside of my local area, and made
it incredibly difficult to own a small business.
What more could I ask?
:-)
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Author: hellmanhellman Date: Dec 21, 2007 12:16
On Dec 20, 10:06Â pm, M jthome.com> wrote:
> Dead in the winter, and 100LL is averaging $4.63/gallon at airnav.com,
> higher than this summer. Â This is a first.
>
> I try to be optimistic about flying and all, but it increasingly looks
> like we'll have an average $5.5/gal summer in 2008.
Maybe take a look at soaring? Unpowered sailplanes are really cheap to
fly if there's lift. Back in 1994, I had one three day soaring trip at
Truckee, CA (a great soaring location admittedly), when I belonged to
a club, that cost me $90 for three tows (one per day, at $30 each) and
$10 for two nights lodging -- in the bunkhouse, with a sleeping bag.
The ship was no additional cost since I belonged to a club (then about
$70/month dues) and, during the week, I could reserve it for three
days at a time. Weekends are another matter. Today, I'd expect those
numbers are roughly double, but still way below what it costs to fly a
power plane.
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Author: Mike NoelMike Noel Date: Dec 21, 2007 13:16
Jay, I think you've picked on the wrong 'crowd' . The 'crowd' responsible
for high fuel prices has been blocking conservation measures like higher
CAFE standards that would have helped the demand side of the supply/demand
cost equation.
The same crowd gets a lot of their personal wealth from high fuel prices.
--
Best Regards,
Mike
http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel
"Jay Honeck" mchsi.com> wrote in message
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>> In Germany 2,21 EUR/Liter (100LL)
>> Makes about 12 USDollar/Gal
>> Why do...
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Author: Jim LogajanJim Logajan Date: Dec 21, 2007 13:23
> Soaring is not for everyone, or every use, but it is something that
> more power pilots ought to consider. If you want to find a soaring
> site, take a look at the SSA (Soaring Society of America) website's
> "finder"
>
> http://www.ssa.org/sport/wheretofly.asp
...
>
> Hoping this helps some people.
Helps me.
> Martin
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Author: jgrove24jgrove24 Date: Dec 21, 2007 14:51
On Dec 21, 12:06 am, M jthome.com> wrote:
> Dead in the winter, and 100LL is averaging $4.63/gallon at airnav.com,
> higher than this summer. This is a first.
>
> I try to be optimistic about flying and all, but it increasingly looks
> like we'll have an average $5.5/gal summer in 2008.
Prince Bandar can be expected to ratchet down prices for the 2008
election, maybe even an "Osama" capture to goose the faithful GOP
voters...JG
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