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Group: rec.aviation.military · Group Profile
Author: LIBERATOR
Date: Jul 13, 2011 21:50

On Jul 12, 6:54 pm, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:
> On 7/12/2011 6:22 PM, Eunometic wrote:
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>> On Jul 13, 4:03 am, "Keith Willshaw"demon.co.uk>  wrote:
>>> Alan Dicey wrote:
>>>> On 12/07/2011 13:07, Dean Markley wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2:21 am, LIBERATORymail.com>    wrote:
>>>>>> I've seen some of the bottom one before, but never the top one, two
>>>>>> fuselages one without any engine and all glass.
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>>>>>> WTF!!! They're nuts and they made it all work!! I suppose they're
>>>>>> angled inwards so to enable avionics to work.
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>>>>> Top one is a BV-141 recon plane.  Odd looking but nor particularly
>>>>> successful.
>>>>> The bottom pic looks a bit like an He-219 maybe?
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>>>> Agreed, Bv-141
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>>>> and what is clearly a view from beneath an He-219 Uhu
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>>>> Neither of these is especially rare, both were built and flown, and
>>>> the Uhu made it into service.
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>>> Fortunately not in large numbers. It was a far better nightighter than the
>>> Me-110 but the Nazis didnt like Heinkel building fighters .
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>> Erhardt Milch was trying to reduce the diversity of types.  He
>> championed the 'wooden' (really plastic wood) Ta 154 and thought that
>> advanced versions of the Ju 88 (with BMW 801 or Jumo 213 engine) were
>> almost as good and of course the Me 210 was also supposed to be radar
>> capable.
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>> Milch seems to have taken it personally when his nominal subordinate,
>> night fighter force head, Joesf Kammhuber ordered the He 219 into
>> production without his consent.
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> The JU88, JU388 and ME210 had a big problem.  With the existing
> engine, they were slow, real slow compared to the escorts.  They
> ended up in a fight or die situation and die they did.
> The HE-219 had the option of running.  There is no way it could
> successfully tangle with the escorts.  But with a 400+ mph speed
> dash it could disengage most of the time.

Jet engines eventually would have been its power source.
> Not, Coulda engines, the HE-219 could have been a real shocker if
> it had been built in the thousands instead of only a couple or 3
> hundred.  And that was with it's existing engines.

I'd imagine.
> Thanks, Hitler for allowing some really bungling people to be in
> charge.  The US thanks you and I imagine most of the rest of the
> world does as well.

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