On 4/15/2011 1:45 PM, Ron wrote:
> On Apr 15, 1:52 am, Darylnospami70west3.com> wrote:
>> On 4/15/2011 1:25 AM, Ron wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 8:36 pm, Darylnospami70west3.com> wrote:
>>>> Unless you can come up with something that specifically states
>>>> that a B was shot down, there is no proof one ever was. But
>>>> there is proof that they have operated for decades.
>>> Israel shot them down 30 years ago...
>> I think there was a lot of misidentifying of the Mig-25s. The
>> ones that were bagged all had weapons. That means they could not
>> have been the B model. Probably the A or the D which were armed.
>> And the P models get confused with the B. The western
>> designator of Foxbat-B was for all Mig-25s. There was even an RP
>> that gets confused with the actual B model. The B Model was the
>> only one that was slick and could sustain Mach 3.32 and could
>> reach the rediculous altitude of 85,000 feet. The rest were used
>> for Recon but at 65,000 feet and Mach 2.5.
>> I know of only one Mig-25B recorded over the Middle East. It was
>> at 85,000 feet and Mach 3.2. No, no one shot that puppy down.
>> Who could in 1967.
> No one could shoot down the Foxbats in 67 because they were not even
> in service yet.
The Foxbat Recon predates the Fighter/Interceptor. It went into
production in 1966. You honestly believe those overflights were
done by Arabs? They weren't. They were done by Soviet Pilots.
> None of them could sustain M3.32.
One model could. It was the first model that had no guns, no
rails, not racks, just cameras. Not even jamming. It predates
> None of them could climb to 130,000 ft
The highest current world absolute general aviation altitude
record -General Aviation World Records- achieved by a manned
air-breathing jet propelled aircraft is 37,650 meters (123,523
feet) set by Alexandr Fedotov, in a Mikoyan Gurevitch E-266M
(MiG-25M), on 31 August 1977.
> Foxbat-B was not covering all the Mig-25 variants
You are right, there were the Foxbat-As But in the end, all
Foxbats became foxbat-Bs. Don't confuse the Mig-25B with a
Foxbat-B. The Mig25B was made before the West was even aware it
existed. It was the fastest and could maintain the highest
altitude. It was NEVER intercepted. It could maintain 85,000
feet altitude at Mach 3.2 for 10 minutes with a burst to Mach
3.32. It's flaw? It got old fast. The followons were limited
to M2.5 but could burst higher. But at Mach 2.5, they didn't
maintain it for long at 67,000 feet.
The old Mig-25B was never exported. The Soviets and the Russians
don't export their best stuff anymore than the US does.
>> Now for a bit of info to back up just how good the Mig-25PD can
>> be. Let's look at 1967 Arab/Israeli Dustup. I doubt there was
>> an Arab pilot in this one since the bird was only 1 year in
>> production in the Soviet Union.
>> The MiG-25 that was clocked at Mach 3.2 by the Israelis achieved
>> this speed
>> Now on to Desert Storm.
>> This is too long to post but it's certainly good reading. With
>> only a handful of them capable of flying, the Mig-25PD gave the
>> US fighters fits. Including the only confirmed kill for the
>> Iraqis for fighter on fighter.