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Author: RonRon Date: Apr 15, 2011 21:45
On Apr 15, 1:52 am, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:> On 4/15/2011 1:25 AM, Ron wrote:
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>> On Apr 14, 8:36 pm, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:>
>>> Unless you can come up with something that specifically states
>>> that a B was shot down, there is no proof one ever was. But
>>> there is proof that they have operated for decades.
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>> Israel shot them down 30 years ago...
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> I think there was a lot of misidentifying of the Mig-25s. The
> ones that were bagged all had weapons. That means they could not
> have been the B model. Probably the A or the D which were armed.
> And the P models get confused with the B. The western
> designator of Foxbat-B was for all Mig-25s. There was even an RP
> that gets confused with the actual B model. The B Model was the
> only one that was slick and could sustain Mach 3.32 and could
> reach the rediculous altitude of 85,000 feet. The rest were used
> for Recon but at 65,000 feet and Mach 2.5. ...
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Author: DarylDaryl Date: Apr 15, 2011 22:20
On 4/15/2011 1:45 PM, Ron wrote:
> On Apr 15, 1:52 am, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:>> On 4/15/2011 1:25 AM, Ron wrote:
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>>> On Apr 14, 8:36 pm, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:>>
>>>> Unless you can come up with something that specifically states
>>>> that a B was shot down, there is no proof one ever was. But
>>>> there is proof that they have operated for decades.
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>>> Israel shot them down 30 years ago...
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>> I think there was a lot of misidentifying of the Mig-25s. The
>> ones that were bagged all had weapons. That means they could not
>> have been the B model. Probably the A or the D which were armed.
>> And the P models get confused with the B. The western
>> designator of Foxbat-B was for all Mig-25s. There was even an RP
>> that gets confused with the actual B model. The B Model was the
>> only one that was slick and could sustain Mach 3.32 and could
>> reach the rediculous altitude of 85,000 feet. The rest were used ...
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Author: DarylDaryl Date: Apr 15, 2011 22:51
On 4/15/2011 1:45 PM, Ron wrote:
> On Apr 15, 1:52 am, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:> None of them could sustain M3.32.
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> None of them could climb to 130,000 ft
One correction, it was and still is 123,000 feet or 37,650 meters.
That record was set by a Mig-25M in 1977. It blew away the
Streak Eagles 102,000 feet absolute record done in 1975.
Of course, the Mig25M was about as much a fighter as the Streak
Eagle was and the A-5 before it was an attack Plane.
Are you aware of the tremendous amount of missiles that were
fired on the Mig-25PD in the Middle East for such a paltry number
killed? And the first Fighter to Fighter kill went to a Mig25PD.
It bagged a F-18. Most of them saw what they were up against
and ran their little keisters off. They ran quite a gambit to
get back to Bagdad. Before you go off on this one, This is
according to Janes and a few others.
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Author: frankfrank Date: Apr 16, 2011 10:12
On Apr 15, 3:51 pm, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:> On 4/15/2011 1:45 PM, Ron wrote:
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>> On Apr 15, 1:52 am, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:
>> None of them could sustain M3.32.>
>> None of them could climb to 130,000 ft
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> One correction, it was and still is 123,000 feet or 37,650 meters.
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> That record was set by a Mig-25M in 1977. It blew away the
> Streak Eagles 102,000 feet absolute record done in 1975.
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> Of course, the Mig25M was about as much a fighter as the Streak
> Eagle was and the A-5 before it was an attack Plane.
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> Are you aware of the tremendous amount of missiles that were
> fired on the Mig-25PD in the Middle East for such a paltry number
> killed? And the first Fighter to Fighter kill went to a Mig25PD.
> It bagged a F-18. Most of them saw what they were up against ...
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Author: frankfrank Date: Apr 16, 2011 10:17
On Apr 15, 3:20 pm, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:> On 4/15/2011 1:45 PM, Ron wrote:
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>> On Apr 15, 1:52 am, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:>>> On 4/15/2011 1:25 AM, Ron wrote:
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>>>> On Apr 14, 8:36 pm, Daryl nospami70west3.com> wrote:>
>>>>> Unless you can come up with something that specifically states
>>>>> that a B was shot down, there is no proof one ever was. But
>>>>> there is proof that they have operated for decades.
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