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Author: BradGuthBradGuth Date: May 4, 2008 13:31
Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10%% less gravity is actually a
darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to
an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber
reinforced balloon. Such fiber reinforced composites do exist,
although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn’t be
excluded for this rigid airship configuration.
For this topic I have an unusual airship to R&D, as intended for a
rather toasty dry and calm environment. Think of this application as
a floating city if you like, or consider this one as merely a small or
as large as need be robotic probe that can remain efficiently aloft
for nearly unlimited time without much energy demand while drifting or
even when cruising along at perhaps an average air-speed of less than
10 m/s, as such wouldn’t demand but a few kw for managing a good sized
airship.
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Author: LIBERATORLIBERATOR Date: May 5, 2008 00:34
On May 4, 2:31Â pm, BradGuth gmail.com> wrote:> Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10%% less gravity is actually a
> darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to
> an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber
> reinforced balloon. Â Such fiber reinforced composites do exist,
> although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn’t be
> excluded for this rigid airship configuration.
>
> For this topic I have an unusual airship to R&D, as intended for a
> rather toasty dry and calm environment. Â Think of this application as
> a floating city if you like, or consider this one as merely a small or
> as large as need be robotic probe that can remain efficiently aloft
> for nearly unlimited time without much energy demand while drifting or
> even when cruising along at perhaps an average air-speed of less than
> 10 m/s, as such wouldn’t demand but a few kw for managing a good sized
> airship.
>
> Taking into account the 1.75 kg/m3 by day and perhaps 2.5 kg/m3 of
> nighttime buoyancy at 50 km is roughly worth twice that of any
> terrestrial airship application, and for the most part it’s actually ...
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Author: BradGuthBradGuth Date: May 5, 2008 06:19
On May 5, 12:34 am, LIBERATOR yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks to our popular mainstream media that'll publish and/or exclude
whatever they're told by those in charge, and otherwise by that of our
"no child left behind" policy, I didn't here a darn thing about it,
and Usenet/Groups certainly didn't make much if anything of it.
(wonder why)
Besides the fact that ETs do exist, and that it's quite likely they
have also existed/coexisted on Venus (because that's technically
doable), what if anything of this "Disclosure Project" doings had
anything whatsoever to do with any composite rigid airship, as
intended for cruising Venus?
In other words, why did you fail to grasp the meaning or intent of
this topic "Venus Airships"?
. - Brad Guth
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Author: HagarHagar Date: May 5, 2008 07:25
"BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f508309c-a9f1-4071-b72b-7721eec7bbe7@j9g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10%% less gravity is actually a
darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to
an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber
reinforced balloon. Such fiber reinforced composites do exist,
although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn
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Author: BradGuthBradGuth Date: May 5, 2008 14:56
On May 5, 7:25 am, "Hagar" sahm.name> wrote:> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:f508309c-a9f1-4071-b72b-7721eec7bbe7@j9g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10%% less gravity is actually a
> darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to
> an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber
> reinforced balloon. Such fiber reinforced composites do exist,
> although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn’t be
> excluded for this rigid airship configuration.
>>> snip drivel <
>
> And, pray tell Brad, where would the above ship be manufactured ?
> On the surface of Venus, you say? I don't think so. Oh, I see ... you'd
> build it on Mars and then have the Acme Intergalactic Airship...
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Author: HagarHagar Date: May 5, 2008 18:32
"BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 5, 7:25 am, "Hagar" sahm.name> wrote:> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f508309c-a9f1-4071-b72b-7721eec7bbe7@j9g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10%% less gravity is actually a
> darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to
> an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber
> reinforced balloon. Such fiber reinforced composites do exist,
> although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn
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Author: BradGuthBradGuth Date: May 5, 2008 21:31
On May 5, 6:32 pm, "Hagar" surewest.net> wrote:> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:a1bc0dc1-6848-4e8a-b4be-e90f8b39c72f@d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 7:25 am, "Hagar" sahm.name> wrote:
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>
>>> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message>
>>news:f508309c-a9f1-4071-b72b-7721eec7bbe7@ j9g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10%% less gravity is actually a
>> darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to
>> an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber
>> reinforced balloon. Such fiber reinforced composites do exist,
>> although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn’t be
>> excluded for this rigid airship configuration. >
>>> snip drivel <
> ...
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Author: BradGuthBradGuth Date: May 6, 2008 05:40
In the simplest form, a sphere within a sphere is perfectly capable of
becoming a rigid airship, of sustaining the most pressure or vacuum
per any given form. Think of this rigid airship as a series of such
spheres aligned and interconnected as to forming this otherwise blimp
like airship.
A 100 meter outer sphere of 5.236e5 m3, having a 0.1 m thick composite
hull offers an internal volumetric sphere of 99.8 meters, for a gross
internal volume of 5.2046e5 m3.
If we use 2.5 kg/m3 as the nighttime buoyancy of what’s roughly
available at 45~50 km
5.236 * 2.5 = 13.09e5 kg gross buoyancy
If the volume worth of this shell/hull being .0314e5 m3, and if this
composite hull required 100 kg/m3 = 3.14e5 kg
13.09e5 – 3.14e5 = 9.95e5 kg as the net buoyancy (- infrastructure)
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Author: mariposas rand mair fhealmariposas rand mair fheal Date: May 6, 2008 09:30
In article blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>> On May 4, 2:31
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Author: HagarHagar Date: May 6, 2008 14:25
"BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 5, 6:32 pm, "Hagar" surewest.net> wrote:> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:a1bc0dc1-6848-4e8a-b4be-e90f8b39c72f@d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 7:25 am, "Hagar" sahm.name> wrote:
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>>> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message> snip floating airbag <
> Why don
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