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Date: Jul 25, 2008 04:26

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:37:55 -0500, John McCoy ix.netcom.com>
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>"armpit" yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
>> I don't understanfd why everyone wants to lump Mark Martin in with the
>> "over-the-hill" drivers...
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Re: Forced Retirement         


Author: Mike Marlow
Date: Jul 25, 2008 04:47

"Peaceful Bill" highspeedturtles.net> wrote in message
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>
> Do you think MM puts himself in that category? He talks about retirement,
> he talks about age. Or do you think it might be the press constantly
> reminding us how old he is? Or a combination of the two?

When do you hear the press talking about how old Martin is? He has made
much more of his retirements himself than anything the press has ever said
about him.
>
> I agree with your opinion that he's still competitive. Given top drawer
> equipment, he seems like a threat to win at most of the events he drives.
> It will be interesting to see how he does next year

He'll continue to almost thrill people. Martin has never had the fire to
really win the big prize and he doesn't now.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
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Author: Peaceful Bill
Date: Jul 25, 2008 05:31

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Peaceful Bill" highspeedturtles.net> wrote in message
> news:6P3ik.7239$vn7.3561@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
>> Do you think MM puts himself in that category? He talks about retirement,
>> he talks about age. Or do you think it might be the press constantly
>> reminding us how old he is? Or a combination of the two?
>
> When do you hear the press talking about how old Martin is? He has made
> much more of his retirements himself than anything the press has ever said
> about him.

I asked the question. And I have heard the press discuss MM's age.
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Author: Mike Marlow
Date: Jul 25, 2008 15:23

"Peaceful Bill" highspeedturtles.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> "Peaceful Bill" highspeedturtles.net> wrote in message
>> news:6P3ik.7239$vn7.3561@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>
>>> Do you think MM puts himself in that category? He talks about
>>> retirement, he talks about age. Or do you think it might be the press
>>> constantly reminding us how old he is? Or a combination of the two?
>>
>> When do you hear the press talking about how old Martin is? He has made
>> much more of his retirements himself than anything the press has ever
>> said about him.
>
> I asked the question. And I have heard the press discuss MM's age.

Sure - but "constantly"? I don't hear any constant discussion from the
press on Martin's age. Since his most recent retirement, there has been
more comment about it than there was before it, but I still would not call
it constant.
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Author: Roger Hamilton
Date: Jul 25, 2008 16:29

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:31:13 -0500, Peaceful Bill
highspeedturtles.net> wrote:
>Mike Marlow wrote:
>> "Peaceful Bill" highspeedturtles.net> wrote in message
>> news:6P3ik.7239$vn7.3561@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>
>>> Do you think MM puts himself in that category? He...
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Re: Forced Retirement         


Author: armpit
Date: Jul 25, 2008 17:12

"Roger Hamilton" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:31:13 -0500, Peaceful Bill
> highspeedturtles.net> wrote:
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> "Peaceful Bill" highspeedturtles.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6P3ik.7239$vn7.3561@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>>
>>>> Do you think MM puts himself in that category? He talks about
>>>> retirement,
>>>> he talks about age. Or do you think it might be the press constantly
>>>> reminding us how old he is? Or a combination of the two?
>>>
>>> When do you hear the press talking about how old Martin is? He has made
>>> much more of his retirements himself than anything the press has ever
>>> said
>>> about him.
>>
>>I asked the question. And I have heard the press discuss MM's age. ...
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Re: Forced Retirement         


Author: Tom Duwe
Date: Jul 25, 2008 18:39

"armpit" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> And keep one thing in mind: Martin no longer has his son's racing career
> as a distraction, which was the main reason he stopped racing full time.

Still tryin' to reason with the un-reasonable, eh?

Good luck with that.

--
Tom in Bristol...less patience than in days of yore.

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Re: Forced Retirement         


Author: Chuck Steak
Date: Jul 25, 2008 20:34

In article Clutch Cargo wrote:
>MM should hang it up, should be told to hang it up. Exactly what has
>he accomplished as a driver? I thought so, not much.

He's ahead of Robby Gordon and Michael Waltrip in points,
with 5 fewer races.... And only 180 from 20th, Juan Pablo...

Dan
****************************************
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Author: Crusader
Date: Jul 25, 2008 20:58

wrote in message news:3cei84tp8indu5dgevr9kd0daapa69r6rv@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:37:55 -0500, John McCoy ix.netcom.com>> wrote:
>>"armpit" yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:A6adnRwQzMP_HhXVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@giganews.com:
>>> I don't understanfd why everyone wants to lump Mark Martin in with the
>>> "over-the-hill" drivers. The guy is still competitive, and still
>>> better than most of the guys out there now, regardless of age.
>>
>>He is the exception, tho.
>>There's a few guys who kept their edge for a long time - Gant and
>>Bobby Allison most notably, and Martin seems to fall in that group.
>>But most drivers, even included some of the most successful, seem
>>to have declined markedly when they get to that 48-49 point.
>>Richard Petty and Darryl...
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Re: Forced Retirement         


Author: armpit
Date: Jul 25, 2008 22:18

"Crusader" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> wrote in message
> news:3cei84tp8indu5dgevr9kd0daapa69r6rv@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:37:55 -0500, John McCoy ix.netcom.com>>
>> wrote:
>>>"armpit" yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:A6adnRwQzMP_HhXVnZ2dnUVZ_sLinZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>> I don't understanfd why everyone wants to lump Mark Martin in with the
>>>> "over-the-hill" drivers. The guy is still competitive, and still
>>>> better than most of the guys out there now, regardless of age.
>>>
>>>He is the exception, tho.
>>>There's a few guys who kept their edge for a long time - Gant and
>>>Bobby Allison most notably, and Martin seems to fall in that group.
>>>But most drivers, even included some of the most successful, seem
>>>to have declined markedly when they get to that 48-49 point.
>>>Richard Petty and Darryl Waltrip being the most high-profile examples.
>>>John
>> ...
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