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Author: fortyforty Date: Apr 30, 2008 06:20
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"We always have hope of winning, because the others might lose..."
Monsieur Orgini - The Grand Prix of Gibraltar
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Author: John BriggsJohn Briggs Date: Apr 30, 2008 06:52
forty wrote:
> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
red-flagging the race.
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John Briggs
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Author: larkimlarkim Date: Apr 30, 2008 07:10
On Apr 30, 2:52 pm, "John Briggs" ntlworld.com> wrote:> forty wrote:
>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
>
> I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
> red-flagging the race.
> --
> John Briggs
Agreed. I think we get a touch overly worked up about the response
time for drivers in these sorts of situations. If I were to roll over
my open top car on the motorway in the UK I would have to wait for at
least 10-15 minutes for a paramedic to attend in all likelihood. I
would be in a vehicle which is far less well protected against impact
than a F1 car, I wouldn't be held in by a multipoint harness with neck
restraints and a crash helment, I wouldn't have deliberately been
driving in a risky manner prior to the incident, and there would be no-
one properly trained to assist directly on the scene immediately if my
vehicle developed a fire.
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Author: LennyLenny Date: Apr 30, 2008 07:18
On Apr 30, 9:52 am, "John Briggs" ntlworld.com> wrote:> forty wrote:
>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
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> I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
> red-flagging the race.
They could have multiple medical cars?
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Author: Frank AdamFrank Adam Date: Apr 30, 2008 07:42
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:10:05 -0700 (PDT), larkim
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>On Apr 30, 2:52 pm, "John Briggs" ntlworld.com> wrote:>> forty wrote:
>>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable...
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Author: larkimlarkim Date: Apr 30, 2008 08:18
On Apr 30, 3:42 pm, Frank Adam notthis.optushome.com.au> wrote:> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:10:05 -0700 (PDT), larkim
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>>>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>>>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
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>>> I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
>>> red-flagging the race.
>>> --
>>> John Briggs
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>>Agreed. I think we get a touch overly worked up about the response
>>time for drivers in these sorts of situations. If I were to roll over ...
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Author: peterpeter Date: Apr 30, 2008 08:34
John Briggs ntlworld.com> writes>forty wrote:
>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
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>I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
>red-flagging the race.
Putting safety car out straight away would have been a good start.
Anyway McLaren will probably get a penalty because one of their drivers
was involved.
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Peter
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Author: fortyforty Date: Apr 30, 2008 08:35
John Briggs wrote:
> forty wrote:
>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
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> I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
> red-flagging the race.
I don't think its an issue of 'the' medical car so much as an overall
medical emergency response problem. When Kubica crashed in Montreal
there was a rescue vehicle with medical staff parked behind a barrier in
the outside of the hairpin that drove over almost immediately. The team
of rescue trucks from the CART/Champ Car safety team parked at numerous
points on track had extraction and medical first response equipment and
personnel trained in first response. Such measures can at least secure
and stabilize the situation while the full-blown medical vehicles make
their way to the scene.
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"We always have hope of winning, because the others might lose..."
Monsieur Orgini - The Grand Prix of Gibraltar
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Author: Who Needs Fenders?Who Needs Fenders? Date: Apr 30, 2008 08:46
John Briggs wrote:
> forty wrote:
>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
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> I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
> red-flagging the race.
They could if they should take (another) queue from ChampCar/IRL: adopt
a professional "Safety Team". A team that (1) travels with the circus,
and (2) are stationed about the track in strategic location.
In the event of a major shunt, the crew heads to the scene as soon as it
is reported, even before the SC is called and the medical car can roll.
To be honest; I've always been surprised that the FIA, with all the
safety rules in place, they appear to have the worse plans in place for
driver safety _after_ an incident.
Just my 2-cents...
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Author: fortyforty Date: Apr 30, 2008 08:49
larkim wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2:52 pm, "John Briggs" ntlworld.com> wrote:>> forty wrote:
>>> Thank heavens they are seriously investigating the poor medical
>>> response. That kind of delay is unacceptable.
>> I don't think they could have got the medical car there any quicker without
>> red-flagging the race.
>> --
>> John Briggs
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> Agreed. I think we get a touch overly worked up about the response
> time for drivers in these sorts of situations. If I were to roll over
> my open top car on the motorway in the UK I would have to wait for at
> least 10-15 minutes for a paramedic to attend in all likelihood. I
> would be in a vehicle which is far less well protected against impact
> than a F1 car, I wouldn't be held in by a multipoint harness with neck
> restraints and a crash helment, I wouldn't have deliberately been
> driving in a risky manner prior to the incident, and there would be no-
> one properly trained to assist directly on the scene immediately if my
> vehicle developed a fire. ...
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