On Apr 2, 11:15 am, "Quentin Queerbottom"
hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Given that the bill of materials alone is $1000, and I have a hundred
hours of work in the software it takes to run the thing, what do you
suggest?

I disagree with the "for what it is" part. You haven't been in it.
It rocks. Sadly, most people can't buy one. They can't buy a Frex
seat or an FD301 either.

Pat Dotson

Byron Forbes wrote:

Wow, you guys must be really bored to argue over such a stupid thing.

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A hundred hours? Good job rF modders don't charge! Anyway, over priced, imo.

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On Apr 2, 11:15 am, "Quentin Queerbottom"
hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Given that the bill of materials alone is $1000, and I have a hundred
hours of work in the software it takes to run the thing, what do you
suggest?

I disagree with the "for what it is" part. You haven't been in it.
It rocks. Sadly, most people can't buy one. They can't buy a Frex
seat or an FD301 either.

Pat Dotson

"Rat River Cemetary" wrote in message
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Yes, well clearly in your neck of the woods (Rat River Cemetary?)
stupidity has been going unchallenged for decades!

"Byron Bend Over Forbes" caramel.com.au> wrote rubbish that I've
sniped.

Byron, bend over and touch your toes. This is going to hurt you a lot more
than it hurts me, boy!

"Quentin Queerbottom" hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
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Did you learn that one from one of your many uncles did you?

It really is pitiful to see the type of behavior that common monkeys
default to when they entirely run out of intelligence (assuming they had any
to begin with) - you stupid little witless girl! :)

Man, I was referring to the statements of Byron, and not to your
specific "dilemma", or explanation of why you did what you did. You had
your perfectly good reasons for not endulging the endless setup cravings
out there, as you explained well enough later in the thread. I have
absolutely no gripe with the content of your posts in this thread.

I just thought Byron was over simplifying things just bit too much when
he referred to the "only intelligent reasons".

I am so tired of people who tries to impose cynicism on other people
when this world is holding up nicely *in spite* of cynicism instead of
*because* of it.

I believe I can say that a "blunt refusal", to use my own words, are not
in the gentleman tradition of the sport, but neither are the endless
demands for it! And I am not to judge what is and what is not in the
gentleman tradition, as there is no obligation in any direction in here.

The total lack of this "gentleman" tradition on this worlds racing
servers, is much more grave, annoying and totally repulsive. I'd rather
see us bash out at each other here and bing gentlemen on the servers
than the other way around.

On Apr 4, 7:14 am, Asgeir Nesoen wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. I also prefer an gentlemanly approach
to sim racing.

I haven't been heavily into oval sim racing since the NROS/TEN days
with NASCAR 2. What I'm seeing now on the ARCA servers in terms of
driving ettiquette is much improved over those days. There were
always a large percentage of people on TEN who had no concept of car
control. AFAIK or could tell them may have even been driving with
keyboards back then. Now people seem to be in control of their
vehicle, and understand how the whole thing is supposed to work.

Another funny thing is, I don't remember people asking for setups back
in the N2 days at all. Now asking for setups completely commonplace.
I saw someone call the name "setup leeches" the other night :) It
must be a N2003 thing, which I was never a part of.

jason moyer wrote:

Not necessarily. Some people are good drivers with fast reactions but
not good setup geeks. Just like in RL racing.