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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: -Charlie
Date: Apr 1, 2008 15:47

mindspring.com> wrote in message
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I've heard variations on that phrase hundreds of times over the last
couple of weeks.

The answer is no, but here's how to make your own setup faster:

General Comments:

Cross Weight (Wedge)

It's important to note, you'll notice in the recommendations below
that I only mention cross weight (wedge) as a solution in the exit
phase of the corner. The biggest problem I see most people having is
being loose on exit. The problem is most prevalent at flatter and
smaller tracks like Salem, USA Int'l, and Milwaukee. The best thing
you can do if you are loose off the corner is to keep adding cross
weight until the car will drive smoothly off the corner. Once you
find that cross weight balance leave it alone. Use other setup
parameters to correct handling in other phases of the corner. As you
reach a good neutral balance through the entire corner you may adjust
cross a bit, but only use it to correct corner exit problems.
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: Quentin Queerbottom
Date: Apr 1, 2008 23:39

"Byron Forbes" caramel.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "rcgldr" cox.net> wrote in message
> news:CvfIj.79863$497.68017@newsfe14.phx...
>>>> "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?"
>>
>>> I've heard variations on that phrase hundreds of times over the last
>>> couple of weeks.
>>
>>> The answer is no, but here's how to make your own setup faster:
>>
>> Well that helps me decide not to buy this game, since apparently
>> players don't want to share setups.
>>
>> Must be a bit more competitive than fun than I prefer.
>>
>>
>
> ...
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: Tony R
Date: Apr 2, 2008 00:13

Quentin Queerbottom wrote:
>
> "Byron Forbes" wrote in message
>> FUCK OFF IDIOTS! (and by the way, this is NOW rude). Go and severly
>> lower the average IQ of some other genre.
>
> Sharing setups makes sim racing more competitive. So go fuck your tight
> little virgin anus with a cucumber, you cunt!

Steer clear of the salad at Byron's barbecue guys...
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: Byron Forbes
Date: Apr 2, 2008 04:19

"rcgldr" cox.net> wrote in message
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>> Are you saying they "SHOULD" do that and be criticized otherwise.
>
> Not a reference to the player, but to the more competitive nature
> of the game. I'm not sure what percentage of players are willing
> to share setups and under what circumstances, and how this differs
> from game to game.
>
> Anyway, sorry, I overreacted. Shouldn't judge a game by one player's
> post here.
>
>
>

There are 2 "inteligent" reasons to share setups -

1/ Bragging - I'm so good I can share

2/ To do it privately with a team mate or mates and have ever improving
setups - combined brainpower and man power.

Then there are all the "weird" reasons.
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: Byron Forbes
Date: Apr 2, 2008 04:24

"Tony R" spam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Quentin Queerbottom wrote:
>>
>> "Byron Forbes" wrote in message
>
>>> FUCK OFF IDIOTS! (and by the way, this is NOW rude). Go and severly
>>> lower the average IQ of some other genre.
>>
>> Sharing setups makes sim racing more competitive. So go fuck your tight
>> little virgin anus with a cucumber, you cunt!
>
> Steer clear of the salad at Byron's barbecue guys...

LOL - that saves me a reply! :)
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: Asgeir Nesoen
Date: Apr 2, 2008 09:51

Being nice to a fellow racer is not an intelligent reason, then. If that
is the case, then racers have helped each other for ages for no
intelligent reason at all.

If that is intelligence, I'd be happy to be stupid.

Sportsmanship and gentlemanship goes hand in hand, and that is why such
a blunt refusal triggered a harsh response.

-A-

On 02.04.2008 04:19, * Byron Forbes wrote:
>
> There are 2 "inteligent" reasons to share setups -
>
> 1/ Bragging - I'm so good I can share
>
> 2/ To do it privately with a team mate or mates and have ever improving
> setups - combined brainpower and man power.
>
> Then there are all the "weird" reasons.
>
>
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: Byron Forbes
Date: Apr 2, 2008 11:22

Call me weird, but the term "race", in my opinion, implies competition.
This normally involves "beating" other people - nice for the winner and
utterly fucked for everyone else!

As far as sportmanship goes, I'd say that someone who can't even handle
being turned down after a setup handout request would probably be a real
dummy spitter after a race loss - no self dicipline or class at all!
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: PlowBoy,
Date: Apr 2, 2008 15:26

Rut rhoh...

Pdot, wow you dare suggest that "teach a man how to fish" is better than
giving him a fish?! How dare you.

Wait, I know what the problem is, you didn't phrase it right... Try it
this way next time...

mindspring.com> wrote in message
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"The answer is, how about I'll do you one better, here's how you can make
{even my} setup better for you." then give them a teaser setup...

It is all about the marketing, and yours was just too damn close to the new
or OLD testament apparently. or to skip my own religious implications. As
you can see, it is has to be carefully put forward. Just like how they say
the US economy is in a slump, after absolutely NOT ONE, marketing figure to
back up this fact. Despite all that, this last week, Barack Obama
proclaimed "As most experts know, our economy is in a {bold and underline}
RECESSION."
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: pdotson
Date: Apr 2, 2008 16:34

On Apr 2, 3:51 am, Asgeir Nesoen wrote:
> Sportsmanship and gentlemanship goes hand in hand, and that is why such
> a blunt refusal triggered a harsh response.
>
> -A-

You are focusing on one word, and ignoring the other 133 lines of the
post.

Sportsmanship?

I posted this same setup info on the ARCA RSC forum. A guy sent me an
email responding to that post asking if I'd take a look at his setup.
I told him to send it to me. He is apparently running 29.9's at
Nashville with it. I loaded it up and ran a 29.7 on the third lap out
of the pits. It was on the loose side with a hot RR tire, so I added
1/2%% nose weight, and ran a 29.6. Added tape and air pressure for a
qual run and ran a 29.58 the first time out. All this took about 10
laps.

His setup is great - maybe better than mine.

Did he need my setup? No. He would be slower with my setup.
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Re: "Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing         


Author: Quentin Queerbottom
Date: Apr 2, 2008 17:15

Pat, your seat thing is too expensive for what it is.

mindspring.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 2, 3:51 am, Asgeir Nesoen wrote:
> Sportsmanship and gentlemanship goes hand in hand, and that is why such
> a blunt refusal triggered a harsh response.
>
> -A-

You are focusing on one word, and ignoring the other 133 lines of the
post.

Sportsmanship?

I posted this same setup info on the ARCA RSC forum. A guy sent me an
email responding to that post asking if I'd take a look at his setup.
I told him to send it to me. He is apparently running 29.9's at
Nashville with it. I loaded it up and ran a 29.7 on the third lap out
of the pits. It was on the loose side with a hot RR tire, so I added
1/2%% nose weight, and ran a 29.6. Added tape and air pressure for a
qual run and ran a 29.58 the first time out. All this took about 10
laps.
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