>"Snapper" y7mail.com> wrote in message
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>> Trevor Wilson wrote...
>>

>>> **Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.

>>
>> Why would you want to do that?
>>
>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a Garmin
>> Etrex. But for car navigation you need something that can be easily read,
>> and heard, too. It needs to be able to be sat in a cradle. Do any GPS
>> phones, such as the N95 do that?

>**My 6110 Navigator does all that. And more. I can choose male of female
>voice for directions. The N95 is better still. Bigger screen. Nonetheless,
>for these 54 year old eyes, I can read the maps without my reading glasses.
>Of course, the Tom Tom is better, but is not as portable.

> "Trevor Wilson" _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> writes:
>
>

>>"Snapper" y7mail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Trevor Wilson wrote...
>>>

>>>> **Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.

>>>
>>> Why would you want to do that?
>>>
>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a Garmin
>>> Etrex. But for car navigation you need something that can be easily
>>> read,
>>> and heard, too. It needs to be able to be sat in a cradle. Do any GPS
>>> phones, such as the N95 do that?

>

>>**My 6110 Navigator does all that. And more. I can choose male of female ...

> Saab C900 Viggenist lios.apana.org.au> wrote

>> Trevor Wilson _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>>> Snapper y7mail.com> wrote

>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote

>>>>> Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.

>>>> Why would you want to do that?

>>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a Garmin Etrex. But for car navigation you need
>>>> something that can be easily read,

>>>> and heard, too.

>>>> It needs to be able to be sat in a cradle.

>>>> Do any GPS phones, such as the N95 do that?

> Trevor Wilson _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>> Saab C900 Viggenist lios.apana.org.au> wrote

>>> Trevor Wilson _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>>>> Snapper y7mail.com> wrote

>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote

>

>>>>>> Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.

>

>>>>> Why would you want to do that?

>

>>>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a
>>>>> Garmin Etrex. But for car navigation you need something that can be
>>>>> easily read,

>
> Nope, at most you just glance at the current road name etc occasionally.
>

>>>>> and heard, too.

> ...

> "Trevor Wilson" _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> writes:
>
>

>>"Snapper" y7mail.com> wrote in message
>>news:0357405d$0$3258$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...

>>> Trevor Wilson wrote...
>>>

>>>> **Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.

>>>
>>> Why would you want to do that?
>>>
>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a Garmin
>>> Etrex. But for car navigation you need something that can be easily
>>> read,
>>> and heard, too. It needs to be able to be sat in a cradle. Do any GPS
>>> phones, such as the N95 do that?

>

>>**My 6110 Navigator does all that. And more. I can choose male of female ...

>
> "Rod Speed" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Trevor Wilson _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>>> Saab C900 Viggenist lios.apana.org.au> wrote

>>>> Trevor Wilson _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>>>>> Snapper y7mail.com> wrote

>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote

>>

>>>>>>> Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.

>>

>>>>>> Why would you want to do that?

>>

>>>>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a
>>>>>> Garmin Etrex. But for car navigation you need something that can be
>>>>>> easily read,

>>
>> Nope, at most you just glance at the current road name etc occasionally. ...

> Rod Speed gmail.com> wrote

>> Trevor Wilson _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>>> Saab C900 Viggenist lios.apana.org.au> wrote

>>>> Trevor Wilson _SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>>>>> Snapper y7mail.com> wrote

>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote

>>>>>>> Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.

>>>>>> Why would you want to do that?

>>>>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a Garmin Etrex. But for car navigation you need
>>>>>> something that can be easily read,

>> Nope, at most you just glance at the current road name etc occasionally.

>>>>>> and heard, too.

>> Thats what you really want for most car use.

>>>>>> It needs to be able to be sat in a cradle.

>> I dont even do that with the TomTom, just sit it on the dash where
>> its a lot easier to enter a new destination on by picking it up than
>> with it stuck to the windscreen etc where its too far away for that.

>>>>>> Do any GPS phones, such as the N95 do that?

> how can aGPS help you to lock on to a satellite signal any quicker ??

> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>

>> how can aGPS help you to lock on to a satellite signal any quicker ??

> It's inherent to the way GPS works. They constantly transmit a signal that
> includes the time according to the satellite's atomic clock, and also the
> satellite's postion. The receiver uses the time taken for the signals to
> reach it to determine the distance from the satellite. Using a bit of
> math, as long is it knows the distance to 4 or more satellites, and the
> position of those satellites, it can triangulate. But there's a catch -
> the satellite transmits this data at a fairly low bitrate, and so it takes
> 30 seconds for the whole data packet to be transmitted. In a best-case
> scenario, it will take 30 seconds to get the position information from the
> satellite, but if the signal is interrupted, corrupted etc during this 30
> seconds, the GPSr doesn't know where the satellite is, so it can't compute
> the position accurately (or at all). This can cause delays in getting a
> fix of sometimes several minutes. Additionally, the satellite position
> data can be up to 2 hours old, and it takes approx 12 minutes for the
> entire catalog of satellite data to be downloaded. Until this is received, ...

> "Doug Jewell" wrote in message
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>> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>

>>> how can aGPS help you to lock on to a satellite signal any quicker
>>> ??

>> It's inherent to the way GPS works. They constantly transmit a
>> signal that includes the time according to the satellite's atomic
>> clock, and also the satellite's postion. The receiver uses the time
>> taken for the signals to reach it to determine the distance from the
>> satellite. Using a bit of math, as long is it knows the distance to
>> 4 or more satellites, and the position of those satellites, it can
>> triangulate. But there's a catch - the satellite transmits this data
>> at a fairly low bitrate, and so it takes 30 seconds for the whole
>> data packet to be transmitted. In a best-case scenario, it will take
>> 30 seconds to get the position information from the satellite, but
>> if the signal is interrupted, corrupted etc during this 30 seconds,
>> the GPSr doesn't know where the satellite is, so it can't compute
>> the position accurately (or at all). This can cause delays in ...