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Author: Bill PutneyBill Putney Date: Sep 3, 2008 11:37
> http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler
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> 09/02/2008: Chrysler may be struggling substantially more than its Detroit 3 rivals, or any other major carmaker for that matter, but the company is hard at work and investing in the next-generation of powertrain and vehicle technologies.
Are they really, or is it just show to gain public confidence?
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Bill Putney
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Author: CopperTopCopperTop Date: Sep 3, 2008 20:41
>> http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler
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>> 09/02/2008: Chrysler may be struggling substantially more than its
>> Detroit 3 rivals, or any other major carmaker for that matter, but
>> the company is hard at work and investing in the next-generation of
>> powertrain and vehicle technologies. >
> Are they really, or is it just show to gain public confidence?
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Author: Dori A SchmetterlingDori A Schmetterling Date: Sep 3, 2008 22:22
That's honest. Hybrids are indeed only a Band-Aid.
Often promoted by ignoramuses away from Engineering in the car industry.
Probably not in the industry at all.
DAS
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Author: Bill PutneyBill Putney Date: Sep 4, 2008 00:16
CopperTop wrote:
>>> http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler
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>>> 09/02/2008: Chrysler may be struggling substantially more than its
>>> Detroit 3 rivals, or any other major carmaker for that matter, but
>>> the company is hard at work and investing in the next-generation of
>>> powertrain and vehicle technologies. >> Are they really, or is it just show to gain public confidence?
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> Bill...yes and yes. I am part of the CAB, Chrysler Advisory Board and it
> has been a discussion over there even with a couple of the VP's in our
> live chats. Electric and diesel. They aren't pushing the hybrid thing
> at this point, they are fairly convinced hybrids are a bandaid and ...
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Author: CopperTopCopperTop Date: Sep 4, 2008 03:14
I may be wrong but I think the original intent of hybrids was to be more
green, to reduce gases and carbons, They just so happen to get a little
better fuel mileage. Very little. Reports on TV say that it takes 5
years of Prius ownership to make up the difference in cost of the vehicle
and as much as 22 years for a Chevy Tahoe Hybrid that costs more than USD
52,000. Battery replacement costs are running USD 3000 to USD 5000.
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"Dori A Schmetterling" spam.co.uk> wrote in
news:QL2dneiqPYJjbCPVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d@pipex.net:
> That's honest. Hybrids are indeed only a Band-Aid.
>
> Often promoted by ignoramuses away from Engineering in the car
> industry. Probably not in the industry at all.
>
> DAS
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> To send an e-mail...
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Author: robrob Date: Sep 4, 2008 04:43
>I may be wrong but I think the original intent of hybrids was to be more
> green, to reduce...
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Author: MoPar ManMoPar Man Date: Sep 4, 2008 06:19
CopperTop wrote:
> I may be wrong but I think the original intent of hybrids was to
> be more green, to reduce gases and carbons, They just so happen
> to get a little better fuel mileage. Very little.
I think the intent of hybrids is to capture as much wasted energy as
possible to feed back into the drive train. In the Prius, even the
fluids are drawn back into insulated compartments to retain as much heat
as possible.
Most of the captured energy comes from regenerative braking. Increases
in fuel economy comes from having a small engine (1.5L - 70 hp) which
gets assisted by the electric motor (50 kw) when more power is called
for. The batteries are also charged directly by the gas engine, but I
can't imagine that efficiency is very high.
Perhaps the Prius is a good choice for an inner-city vehicle, perhaps as
a taxi or for urban commuters. For long distance or highway commuters,
I don't think it's a good choice compared to an ordinary small car with
a similar-sized gas or diesel engine.
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Author: Percival P. CassidyPercival P. Cassidy Date: Sep 4, 2008 14:33
On 09/03/08 09:14 pm CopperTop wrote:
> I may be wrong but I think the original intent of hybrids was to be more
> green, to reduce gases and carbons, They just so happen to get a little
> better fuel mileage. Very little. Reports on TV say that it takes 5
> years of Prius ownership to make up the difference in cost of the vehicle
> and as much as 22 years for a Chevy Tahoe Hybrid that costs more than USD
> 52,000. Battery replacement costs are running USD 3000 to USD 5000.
Consumer Reports a couple years ago estimated an 8-year break-even point
with gas at $5/gallon.
Perce
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Author: ArtArt Date: Sep 5, 2008 02:26
My bandaid Camry hybrid easily gets 35 mpg city or highway. That's a pretty
good bandaid if you ask me. Payback is 1 year according to Consumer Reports
at around $4/ gallon.
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