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Author: leonard78spleonard78sp Date: Dec 29, 2007 12:27
The new gas mileage standards mandated
by the recently passed energy legislation
defy the laws of physics...but Democrats,
including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
don't seem to care.
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Coping With The New CAFÉ Standards
By Jack Ward
December 29, 2007
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Author: Kurt LochnerKurt Lochner Date: Dec 29, 2007 12:38
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>The new gas mileage standards mandated
>by the recently passed energy legislation
>defy the laws of physics..
leotard, you don't know any physics to speak of..
--Your 'appeal to authority' is meaningless in this case..
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Author: V-for-VendicarV-for-Vendicar Date: Dec 29, 2007 23:30
>>The new gas mileage standards mandated
>>by the recently passed energy legislation
>>defy the laws of physics..
Which ones? The Universal Law of Lobbyest Influence Peddeling?
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Author: V-for-VendicarV-for-Vendicar Date: Dec 30, 2007 00:02
> "The efficiency of an internal combustion engine is
> based on total energy of the fuel and the amount of
> energy used to perform useful work. So by
> legislating a fuel efficiency increase of about 40%%,
> our Congress Critters were attempting to rewrite Laws
> of Thermodynamics."
Over 30 teams from the U.S., Canada, India and Bahrain participated in the
SAE's annual mileage competition June 7-8, 2007 in Marshall, Michigan. The
competition requires the development and construction of a single person,
fuel efficient vehicle. All vehicles must be powered by a small four-cycle
engine, have a minimum of three wheels, and the driver must be fully
enclosed to prevent contact with the ground. The winner is based on a
combination of best fuel economy and points from technical inspections of
the vehicles. The 2006 winner, the University of British Columbia, achieved
a record 3,145 miles per gallon!
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/mostEfficient.shtml
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Author: Brent PBrent P Date: Dec 30, 2007 00:10
>> "The efficiency of an internal combustion engine is
>> based on total energy of the fuel and the amount of
>> energy used to perform useful work. So by
>> legislating a fuel efficiency increase of about 40%%,
>> our Congress Critters were attempting to rewrite Laws
>> of Thermodynamics."
>
> Over 30 teams from the U.S., Canada, India and Bahrain participated in the
> SAE's annual mileage competition June 7-8, 2007 in Marshall, Michigan. The
> competition requires the development and construction of a single person,
> fuel efficient vehicle. All vehicles must be powered by a small four-cycle
> engine, have a minimum of three wheels, and the driver must be fully
> enclosed to...
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Date: Dec 30, 2007 01:22
"Brent P" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1_KdndWSk7Ybz-ranZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com...>>> "The efficiency of an internal combustion engine is
>>> based on total energy of the fuel and the amount of
>>> energy used to perform useful work. So by
>>> legislating a fuel efficiency increase of about 40%%,
>>> our Congress Critters were attempting to rewrite Laws
>>> of Thermodynamics."
>>
>> Over 30 teams from the U.S., Canada, India and Bahrain participated in
>> the
>> SAE's annual mileage competition June 7-8, 2007 in Marshall, Michigan.
>> The
>> competition requires the development and construction of a single person,
>> fuel efficient vehicle. All vehicles must be powered by a small
>> four-cycle ...
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Author: EeyoreEeyore Date: Dec 30, 2007 02:15
Kurt Lochner wrote:
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>> So I began to wonder what vehicle would get an
>> average of 35 mpg. Since I was at a Toyota dealership
>> and Toyota has been a leader in fuel efficient vehicles,
>> I started checking out the vehicles on the lot.
I'll make a very simple statement: The Toyota Yaris D-4D is a
staggeringly good little car.... I have never driven another car that
could happily tootle along at 80–90mph, nip past obstructive drivers in
old-shape Merc CL500 coupes, and still take me 63 miles on a gallon of
diesel.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/?id=52
OK that's a UK gallon but it's still 50.4 US mpg !
Diesel engines are a large part of the answer. The USA has an irrational
fear of them though. Modern European diesel engine design is making even
SPORTY diesels possible. They have exceptional torque which most drivers
like too.
Graham
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Author: EeyoreEeyore Date: Dec 30, 2007 02:19
Kurt Lochner wrote:
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>>The new gas mileage standards mandated
>>by the recently passed energy legislation
>>defy the laws of physics..
>
> leotard, you don't know any physics to speak of..
The laws of physics certainly do tend to say that expecting a 7 litre
V-8 (or even say a more humble 4 litre) to do 35 mpg is wishful thinking
! But who actually NEEDS one ?
Graham
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Author: EeyoreEeyore Date: Dec 30, 2007 02:20
V-for-Vendicar wrote:
>> "The efficiency of an internal combustion engine is
>> based on total energy of the fuel and the amount of
>> energy used to perform useful work. So by
>> legislating a fuel efficiency increase of about 40%%,
>> our Congress Critters were attempting to rewrite Laws
>> of Thermodynamics."
>
> Over 30 teams from the U.S., Canada, India and Bahrain participated in the
> SAE's annual mileage competition June 7-8, 2007 in Marshall, Michigan. The
> competition requires the development and construction of a single person,
> fuel efficient vehicle. All vehicles must be powered by a small four-cycle
> engine, have a minimum of three wheels, and the driver must be fully
> enclosed to prevent contact with the ground.
But these are CLOWN cars.
You're sending out entirely the wrong idea if you think that's the only future.
Graham
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Author: Greg CarrGreg Carr Date: Dec 30, 2007 03:17
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:02:11 -0800, "V-for-Vendicar"
ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
>> "The efficiency of an internal combustion engine is
>> based on total energy of the fuel and the amount of
>> energy used to perform useful work. So by
>> legislating...
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