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Author: Rich HortonRich Horton Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:33
Adam-Troy Castro wondered what I thought the Worst Hugos Ever were.
Here's my cut:
Everybody assumes THEY'D RATHER BE RIGHT has to come first. Well,
sure. I read it several years ago, out of duty, and it really is very
bad. Although I will say two things about it. 1 -- it is actually...
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Author: Mike SchillingMike Schilling Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:51
Rich Horton wrote:
>
> A few particularly weak choices: Poul Anderson's "Hunter's Moon".
> Gordon R. Dickson's "The Cloak and the Staff" (which beat out
> Michael
> Shea's "The Autopsy", only the greatest SF horror story EVER, and
> also
> beat Howard Waldrop's "The Ugly Chickens".) Then Anderson again with
> "The Saturn Game" (beating out Phyllis Eisenstein's "In the Western
> Tradition", a great story). Jack Williamson's "The Ultimate Earth"
> was
> a very weak choice, and it too beat out some great stuff:
> "Seventy-Two
> Letters" most obviously.
Also Anderson's "The Sharing of Flesh". It's a clever concept and a
decent story, but definitely a "read once" (I am having no luck
finding the other nominees for 1969.)
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Author: Dan GoodmanDan Goodman Date: Feb 23, 2008 11:04
Rich Horton wrote:
> Adam-Troy Castro wondered what I thought the Worst Hugos Ever were.
> Here's my cut:
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Author: David T. BilekDavid T. Bilek Date: Feb 23, 2008 11:27
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:33:22 GMT, Rich Horton prodigy.net>
wrote:
... snip lots
>So -- I can list only three really bad choices, in order:
>
>1. They'd Rather Be Right
>2. Hominids
>3. The Wanderer
>
>Forced to add two more, I'd probably list Foundation's Edge, and
>Stranger in a Strange Land.
_They'd Rather Be Right_ must be really, really wretched because there
isn't a seeming redeeming quality to Sawyer's effort. I guess most of
the words were spelled correctly. And the paper was very papery.
-David
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Author: William HydeWilliam Hyde Date: Feb 23, 2008 12:21
On Feb 23, 1:33 pm, Rich Horton prodigy.net> wrote:>
> This is a bit unfair, as I never actually finished the book, but I
> tend to think that Fritz Leiber's THE WANDERER was a really poor
> choice. I tried to read the book once and got bored, but I suspect it
> is at least decent -- Leiber was a great writer -- but surely not
> Hugo-worthy,
This is a fairly common opinion - James shares it in spades, IIRC -
but I disagree. Admittedly, I haven't read it for two decades, but
it is quite a romp and has some disturbing ideas. I could argue that
it was "mote" before Niven and
Pournelle.
But I didn't know ...
and there were other choices that year, such as DAVY and
> THE PLANET BUYER (the first of what became NORSTRILIA).
... this. "Davy" may not just be my favourite SF novel of that year,
but of that decade(1).
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Date: Feb 23, 2008 13:06
William Hyde gmail.com> writes:
> and there were other choices that year, such as DAVY and
>> THE PLANET BUYER (the first of what became NORSTRILIA).
>
> ... this. "Davy" may not just be my favourite SF novel of that year,
> but of that decade(1).
Hee. I found a 1st ed DAVY in the bookshop the other day, and
immediately bought it, even though it's been many years since I last
read it.
(I haven't really gotten any traction with THE WANDERER, I'm afraid,
even though I usually love Leiber. Maybe it's time for another try.)
Best,
Thomas
--
Thomas Lindgren
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Author: Joe MorrisJoe Morris Date: Feb 23, 2008 14:32
Not so long ago, Thomas Lindgren wrote:
> William Hyde gmail.com> writes:>> and there were other choices that year, such as DAVY and
>>> THE PLANET BUYER (the first of what became NORSTRILIA).
>>
>> ... this. "Davy" may not just be my favourite SF novel of that year,
>> but of that decade(1).
> Hee. I found a 1st ed DAVY in the bookshop the other day, and
> immediately bought it, even though it's been many years since I last
> read it.
Great catch. I love Pangborn and was hugely disappointed that
Old Earth Books had to quit their reprinting program. I'd
love to have copies of some of his more obscure stuff like
"Wilderness of Spring". My favorite is probably the collection
"Still I Persist In Wondering"
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Author: Charlie StrossCharlie Stross Date: Feb 23, 2008 15:37
Stoned koala bears drooled eucalyptus spittle in awe
as prodigy.net> declared:
> Adam-Troy Castro wondered what I thought the Worst Hugos Ever were.
> Here's my cut:
Let me pour some gasoline on one particular smouldering
cigarette?
In 1985/6 STARTIDE RISING won the Hugo and Nebula for best
novel, beating out BLOOD MUSIC (in both awards).
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Author: johan.g.larsonjohan.g.larson Date: Feb 23, 2008 16:13
On Feb 23, 6:37 pm, Charlie Stross antipope.org> wrote:> Let me pour some gasoline on one particular smouldering
> cigarette?
>
> In 1985/6 STARTIDE RISING won the Hugo and Nebula for best
> novel, beating out BLOOD MUSIC (in both awards).
Try as I might, I can't summon much outrage at the thought of a good
book winning over a great one. Perhaps I need to practice.
> I'm not knocking on STARTIDE RISING as being a *bad* book --
> but there was a better book on offer, the voters made
> the wrong choice, and from today's vantage point it's
> glaringly obvious.
The problem with being ahead of your time is that your work tends to
be dismissed as lunatic ravings. In the field of database research,
one of the major conferences runs a 10-years-later award, with the
intention of recognizing papers that in retrospect turned out to be
influential. I suspect such an award would do SF some real good. It
would certainly be better than all those outdated awards for short
fiction.
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