On May 11, 3:48 pm, "Charles Tomaras"
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> On May 11, 3:17 am, "Charles Tomaras" tomaras.com> wrote:
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>>> "jeff c"
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>>> On May 10, 11:48 pm, "Charles Tomaras"
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>>>> "Sergio Sanmiguel"
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>>>> On May 10, 8:58 pm, "Charles Tomaras"
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>>>>> "Whitney Ince"
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>>>>>> Considering buying a new package what would you get per day for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> following package?
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>>>>>> Sound Devices 442
>>>>>> 4 411 wireless
>>>>>> 1 plug on tx
>>>>>> Zaxcom Eng Hop
>>>>>> Sanken cs3e and boompole
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>>>>>> 1 comtek tx and 2 comtek rx
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>>>>>> 4 Countryman emw lavs?
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>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>For that kind of sound package you should charge the least
>>>>>$800/day...
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>>>>>SS
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>>>> Heck Sergio I don't think a big feature mixer get's $800 a day for a
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>>>> film package. No client in the ENG, EFP, Corporate world is going to
>>>> hire a
>>>> mixer with a package for those kinds of rates. Nice dream, but not
>>>> reality.
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>>> I'm just charging between 450 and 1250 per 10 hours... equipment
>>> included. The Net jobs, I get to use the photographer's gear so...
>>> it's the "Labor" rate of aprox 400 for 8... if I'm to genlock
>>> (trilevel or whatever)two or more cameras... or just show them all a
>>> slate... it's going to cost$. All the old "standards" are out the
>>> window... every man for hisself!!! bee good, charge what you want...
>>>@200 per day... WTF sinking the ship for everyone... that is the the
>>>"Anchor" in all the crap heard here from supposedly experienced ops.
>>>JeEEZus... I ' know veggies are cheaper... but how long can you live
>>>with your parents ???
>>>Bite Me
>>>Jeff C
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>> What's with all the anger? We are not talking commercials or high end jobs
>> here...we are talking about running around with a bag and a couple of
>> wireless. You just are not going to find clients in my neck of the woods
>> that are going to pay big bucks for gear. You can find a well equipped
>> sound
>> mixer with decent experience for between $450 and $700 inclusive ANYWHERE
>> in
>> the USA. I'm not dragging anything down...I'm on the high end for Seattle.
>> When I talk with producers coming to town they aren't paying anyone
>> anywhere
>> much more. Who is paying you a thousand bucks for a bag job?
>>Charlie... If I mis-percieved that you were working for 200 a day
>>inclusive, I apologize.
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> No problem, my 2008 book rate for a straight ahead corporate listen to the
> air conditioner job is $500 for 10 hours and $200 for a gear package with a
> couple of RF mics, a Lectro IFB, 442 and a good mic. That's on the high side
> of things for Seattle and I doubt any of the more youthful mixers in Seattle
> are charging more than $550 for the same package. For the extra money I
> provide many years of experience, equipment redundancy, confident attitude
> on the shoot and lots of follow through after the shoot when needed to make
> sure everyone is pleased. While I do roll my 744t on nearly everything, I
> charge extra for transcription and for delivery of uncompressed files. I'm
> also understanding of production changes and demands with my good clients
> and rarely do I charge them for cancellations nor do I ding them excessively
> for occasional unplanned overtime because I always remember the many 2 hour
> full days they have given me in the past. In short, I bring good gear, I do
> a good job, and I try to be flexible and fair. This has allowed me to make a
> decent living, purchase a house and have some hope for a reasonable
> retirement when that time comes.
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> Jeff...you're really gonna hate me when I start bringing the 788t in the bag
> to all my gigs! :)- Hide quoted text -
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I would love to invite you all to move to Nashville to help us change
things. The rates here with gear (mixer, boom mic, two wirelesses)
range from $350-$450/10 hr day. There is one person that goes for
$500 with gear. Prices are largely driven by the camera ops that get
the jobs. They will work for a set price and expect you to come in
for a smaller piece of the pie. Almost all of them keep their clients
close and you have no way of going directly to the client to negotiate
your rate.
No matter what your market is someone will always work for less.
I think most of us enjoy what we do and would like to be paid a decent
wage for what we bring to the table, experience, gear and technical
knowhow.
Thanks
David Rogers
