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Author: Terrence Briggs
Date: Jun 28, 2008 12:41

Added missing attribution to Terrence Briggs' original quoted
material...

On Jun 27, 12:56 pm, "Patrick McNamara" yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "Terrence Briggs" lycos.com> wrote in message
>
> news:76fdbb96-9c3c-4d86-9e09-307d0adde4bf@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> ABC had the highest-rated Sat AM lineup in from 1996 through summer
>>> 1998, when it developed in E/I-friendly One Saturday Morning. Pepper
>>> Ann, Recess,a nd New Doug got better ratings than Nick's shows (Wild
>>> Thornberrys and Rugrats, among others), Fox Kids' Godzilla, and other
>>> heary-hitters.
>>> So what is all of this bunk about Saturday morning dying on free TV?
>
>> It's only been WOUNDED by Discovery Channel, NickJr., Disney Channel,
>> and Hallmark Cards! -_-
>
>> Derek Janssen (who's forever been spoiled by those three glorious
>> mid-90's years of setting the VCR for X-Men and the Tick on Fox)
>> ejan...@verizon.et

This is my stuff:
> You think YOU were spoiled.  My high-school-aged animatophilia
> flourished in the era of X-Men and Tick... and ExoSquad and Mighty
> Max, etc.  But, geez, 1994 wasn't the end of the Saturday Morning
> world.  Stop sounding like a grouchy old man!

This is the end of my stuff.

And now, on to Patrick, showing his age :-) :
> Saturday morning didn't end, it exploded. I remember when the ONLY cartoons
> on TV, aside from the occasional prime-time special and the odd Flintstones
> or Jetsons repeats, were on Saturday morning. (And we had to watch those in
> black and white!)
>
> Even after Disney destroyed ABC's Saturday morning, NBC gave up it's
> Saturday morning to live action and news and CBS dumbed it's Saturday
> morning down to pre-school level, there was still very watchable programs on
> FOX and later WB.

Whoa, whoa, I'm confuzzled by the chronology here.

NBC temporarily switched to all live-action way back in 1992, at least
(whenever Prostars and Wishkid ended). In fairness to NBC, the Today
show was one of the most profitable shows on TV at one time, and
probably still is. I don't blame them for giving animation-hating
adults something to watch during Sat AM :-)

CBS "dumbed down" its Sat AM lineup around 1997, assuming you are
referring to the Nelvana switchup, wich gave us Birdz, Anatole
[spelling?], and Mythic Warriors (tee, hee).

ABC went all-Disney in 1997, and earned the #1 Sat AM lineup on TV, as
I constantly state. They were even beating Nickelodeon!
> And broadcast TV only really gave up animation after
> Cartoon Network and the like came on the scene with 24 hour cartoons.

Cartoon Network has been around since, when? 1994? It Sat AM lineup
was no competition until 2006, at least, if the ratings are any
indicator. They were just another mediocre performer until very
recently.

Nickelodeon was never 24-hour animation. Sure, it's Sat AM lineup
became a serious competitor in the mid-1990s, but I don't believe they
were ever #1 until the Spongebob Oddparents era of 2000.

From my reading, the "death" of the broadcast lineups has more to do
with the lack of competitive programming than any government mandate.
ABC flourished with E/I programming from 1997-1999. Kids WB thrived
with less E/I programming from 2000-2004. CBS had the Nickelodeon
connection and NEVER capitqalized on it, save for a small run of
Rugrats episodes and some Chalkzone. Why wouldn't they air Avatar,
Fairoddparents or Spongebob? Heck, CBS could have aired Spongebob and
FO on Friday nights are gotten great ratings. What the heck?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Terrence Briggs
Peace to you...
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