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Author: Derek JanssenDerek Janssen Date: May 23, 2008 11:37
Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:
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>>When "Meet the Robinsons" turned all Lasseter-gushy at the end and
>>decided we'd rather see a Pixar movie instead, THAT was our graveside
>>jig on three years of "new directions" for Disney--
>>Cue the Riverdance music, and bring on them frog princesses...
>
> Anyone wanna translate?
(Anyone wanna move out of Mexico and learn English?
Seriously--Every other Yanqui is getting it, right now.) ;)
> Seriously, what the hell's he talking
> about? Maybe these are terms only ultra-industry-insiders are
> suppossed to know? Funny how he cut the part where I point out Pixar
> being the only reason Disney's had any success the last few years . .
> . well, Studio Ghibli too . . .
>
> As pointed out, they learned their lesson with Enchanted, and are
> finally following the "Shrek Route"; I guess sucking on the Dreamworks
> tailpipe is one way to learn . . .
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Author: Derek JanssenDerek Janssen Date: May 23, 2008 12:06
Patrick McNamara wrote:
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> Some of the best shows HB made have not been re-aired since the 70s. They
> produced just about the best animation of the time. These Are The Days could
> have held it's own against anything coming out of Japan.
Remember when "ABC Afterschool Special" *didn't* mean "teen
drunk-driving", but could mean "Jose' Ferrer voicing an animated Cyrano"?
(And if that makes me a million years old, so be it--At least I keep the
history books.)
...If you don't, let's just say "Charlotte's Web", and move on.
> Japanese animation
> for TV at the time was mainly limited to the few shows from the 60s that
> came over. Anime didn't make it big until the 80s when it replaced alot of
> the HB shows.
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Author: TedTed Date: May 25, 2008 08:55
TMC1982@ gmail.com wrote:
Why isn't Walt Disney on this list? People hated him for the strike, and
then there's the whole dominant bland cartoon thing...
when Spumco revived "Ren and Stimpy" on the "Adult > Party Cartoon" on SpikeTV, those episodes were even more hated by the
> fans than the Games produced episodes.
>
I don't think the episodes overall were more hated than the Games
episodes overall; but people were angrier about Onwards and Upwards (the
first new episode) than they were about any Games episode because it was
far worse than the best Games episodes and was such a disappointment as
our first look at what the new RnS was going to be. Then there was
splitting Firedogs 2 because it wasn't ready, Naked Beach Frenzy not
being quite on time, and then Spike's refusal to show NBF, followed by
an extended period of limbo followed by cancellation. And then there's
some of the sub-contractors on the show not being paid for some of their
work when Spumco ran out of cash and then dissolved.
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Author: Patrick McNamaraPatrick McNamara Date: May 25, 2008 15:28
"Ted" nospam.com> wrote in message
news:F4-dnRpjzbFLFqTVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@earthlink.com...> TMC1982@ gmail.com wrote:
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> Why isn't Walt Disney on this list? People hated him for the strike, and
> then there's the whole dominant bland cartoon thing...
It's probably too far back for most to remember. And all the crappiest
Disney animation came after he died.
I was thinking that Ralph Bakshi could also be listed, mainly for the way he
abused rotoscoping and left Lord of the Rings without an ending. But for the
most part, he was just incompetant.
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Author: TedTed Date: May 25, 2008 16:10
Patrick McNamara wrote:
> "Ted" nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:F4-dnRpjzbFLFqTVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >>TMC1982@ gmail.com wrote:
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>>Why isn't Walt Disney on this list? People hated him for the strike, and
>>then there's the whole dominant bland cartoon thing... >
>
> It's probably too far back for most to remember. And all the crappiest
> Disney animation came after he died.
The original post brought up Leon Schlesinger for similar reasons, and
in the same time period. And I submit the boringest Disney came about
while Walt was alive...
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Author: Juan F. LaraJuan F. Lara Date: May 25, 2008 16:25
In article earthlink.com>,
Ted nospam.com> wrote:>The original post brought up Leon Schlesinger for similar reasons,
Schlesinger was never a creator. Just a businessman.
> And I submit the boringest Disney came about while Walt was alive...
That's an opinion.
- Juan F. Lara
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Author: Derek JanssenDerek Janssen Date: May 25, 2008 16:57
Patrick McNamara wrote:
> "Ted" nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:F4-dnRpjzbFLFqTVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >>TMC1982@ gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>Why isn't Walt Disney on this list? People hated him for the strike, and
>>then there's the whole dominant bland cartoon thing... >
> It's probably too far back for most to remember.
And even then, most of the strike-slandering (and "anti-semitism"
rumors) were the product of powerful union interests in Hollywood,
trying to lean pressure--
Walt had too naive an approach to his animators, still thought he was
building the studio from scratch, thought his production team as
"family", and wondered why they were so "ungrateful" as to start talking
about salaries.
> And all the crappiest Disney animation came after he died.
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Author: Derek JanssenDerek Janssen Date: May 25, 2008 16:59
Ted wrote:
> Patrick McNamara wrote:
>
>> "Ted" nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:F4-dnRpjzbFLFqTVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>> TMC1982@ gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Why isn't Walt Disney on this list? People hated him for the strike,
>>> and then there's the whole dominant bland cartoon thing... >>
>> It's probably too far back for most to remember. And all the crappiest
>> Disney animation came after he died.
>
> The original post brought up Leon Schlesinger for similar reasons, and
> in the same time period. And I submit the boringest Disney came about
> while Walt was alive...
And yet, Dumbo nevertheless went on to be profitable for the studio at
the time.
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Author: TedTed Date: May 25, 2008 20:44
Juan F. Lara wrote:
> In article earthlink.com>,
> Ted nospam.com> wrote:
> >>The original post brought up Leon Schlesinger for similar reasons,
>
>
> Schlesinger was never a creator. Just a businessman.
Wouldn't that make Disney all the more hateable for betraying his fellow
artists?
>
>
>>And I submit the boringest Disney came about while Walt was alive...
>
>
> That's an opinion.
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Author: Juan F. LaraJuan F. Lara Date: May 25, 2008 21:26
In article earthlink.com>,
Ted nospam.com> wrote:>>>And I submit the boringest Disney came about while Walt was alive...
>>
>>
>> That's an opinion.
>
>So is the position that any given activity makes someone hateable.
Most of the people listed are universally held in contempt. Michael
Eisner and Peggy Charren have few defenders. OTOH, John K has made many
valuable contributions to the animation industry, and so people objected to
him being listed.
- Juan F. Lara
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